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Captain Salt
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Oct 17 2012, 6:44pm
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My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!
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Eruonen
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Oct 17 2012, 7:30pm
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Education on the topic is key -
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[ur]lhttp://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-07-18-2320390608_x.html
"... farmers, who can make up to $100,000 a year in profits by selling the hides (flawless ones go for about $240) and meat, which can fetch about $12 a pound retail or $6 wholesale."
"...He's got some 3,000 gators on his farm and slaughters about 1,000 a year."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swamp_People
"Alligator season in Louisiana begins on the first Wednesday in September and lasts 30 days. In this time limit, many of the alligator hunters, following a tradition dating back 300 years, earn most of their yearly income in a high risk vocation dependent on experience and the whims of weather within strict regulation by wildlife laws. Hunters are each issued a certain number of tags that must be attached to their kills; once they "tag out" (run out of tags), their season is over, and they may no longer kill any more alligators the rest of the season.....Most of the hunters spend the rest of the year harvesting other species (fish, crawfish, shrimp, crabs, raccoons, turtles, etc.) to augment their yearly incomes and/or holding down full-time jobs in other industries."
"The final episode of season 2 was met with record breaking viewers and ratings. The final episode drew 5.5 million viewers. It drew 2.8 million adults 25-54 and adults 18-49 – scoring the #1 show on cable for the night and the #2 spot in all of television. The season overall averaged 4.1 million viewers for the season, which was up 32% versus season 1.[6]"
There is clearly an urban / rural cultural divide.
We all have different perspectives and the ability to control what we watch.
Hmm, what is for dinner tonight? Where did it come from?
Cheers
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JWPlatt
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Oct 17 2012, 7:42pm
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We all have ... the ability to control what we watch.
Switching it off in our living room does not switch off the production of it for entertainment. You are suggesting ignorance is bliss.
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Captain Salt
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Oct 17 2012, 7:59pm
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Yes, interesting figures on the practice, however
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and this will be my final reply lest we argue endlessly in circles  ...it's a moral issue. To quote Dom:
"death entertainment that continues to demonize reptiles as monsters and animals that are okay to torture and kill", Monaghan adds, "If alligator populations need to be controlled, I understand. But the act should not be glorified on TV. Disgusting."
This is where he (and those in agreement) take issue with it...not that Alligator hunting has existed or continues to occur. But the EXPLOITATION of it - it's like the Ancient Roman gladiatorial games, but with alligators instead. But in any event, I certainly think I'll stick with NOT watching it. 
My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!
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Eruonen
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Oct 17 2012, 8:26pm
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Who determines what is entertainment?
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5.5 million viewers obviously disagree.
Whether it is on tv or not it will continue. The public has the right to be informed as to how this is accomplished. If enough viewers find it fascinating the market will support the show. People are also interested in the "colorful" characters who live lives completely different from their own.
After watching National Geographic - maybe Dom and others should go to the Amazon and protest the hunting of monkeys by Amazonian tribes. Or tell the Inuit they cannot harvest whales. Or tell some Native American tribes they cannot take a certain number of eagles. It is a big world and cultural standards vary widely.
If Dom, you and others convince enough people not to watch, it will go off the air. Make your case to the viewing public.
I have a pot roast in the crock pot for dinner tonight. It came from a cow...with big brown eyes.
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JWPlatt
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Oct 17 2012, 9:08pm
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...maybe Dom and others should go to the Amazon and protest the hunting of monkeys by Amazonian tribes. Or tell the Inuit they cannot harvest whales. Or tell some Native American tribes they cannot take a certain number of eagles. It is a big world and cultural standards vary widely.
Do they do it for TV? Does National Geographic corrupt the culture?
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Eruonen
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Oct 17 2012, 9:57pm
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No more than the guys who have always done it before t.v.
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What is corruption of the culture? Documenting it? Showing it?
The fishermen who bring in Alaskan crab are not doing it for t.v.....tv follows them in what they would be doing anyway.
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Oct 19 2012, 7:51pm
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I saw that one in Estes Park just the other day :-) //
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