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DanielLB
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Oct 13 2012, 9:38am
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When I first started posting I thought gramma and Magpie were male. Absolutely no reason why! Strange, isn't it?
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DanielLB
Elvenhome

Oct 13 2012, 9:39am
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I should have guessed it had been done before. Those were very tough though ... I think I got one right overall.
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DanielLB
Elvenhome

Oct 13 2012, 9:42am
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It's a BBC programme. You'll never look at Boromir the same again......: Link
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zarabia
Dor-Lomin

Oct 14 2012, 4:58am
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Good, bad, or indifferent - I'm probably both
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I usually use them interchangeably, but I think other posters are on to something when they say that geek has come to mean super-smart or super enthusiastic about something usually not quite mainstream; and nerd is someone (smart or not) with poor social skills. I'd like to think I'm smart, but there's too much proof otherwise . However, I get really excited about things that many "mainstream" types don't. I used to play that down as something to be embarrassed about, but I now let my geek flag fly high and proud I still try to downplay the nerdier aspects of my personality though (Like waaay overusing "quotes" )
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DanielLB
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Oct 14 2012, 9:13am
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I heard dork on TV this morning.
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To me, that's more derogatory than geek and nerd combined. It just doesn't sound very nice!
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Magpie
Elvenhome

Oct 14 2012, 3:18pm
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A thought provoking book on labels like Nerd and Geek
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is: Nerds: Who They Are and Why We Need More of Them by David Anderegg I didn't read this all the way through. At first, it annoyed me. But the more I read, the more I agreed and the more angry I got at the observations he was making. I went back through some emails and found a sort of synopsis I wrote to someone: The author is making the point that American culture/society (through movies, tv, books, comics, etc.) stereotypes the NERD as someone who is smart and values education but is socially awkward and sexually unattractive. This is, perhaps, easily seen as a stereotype by adults who know it's not entirely accurate. But, he contends, the message it sends to children is more insidious. He thinks it turns them off anything 'intellectual' at a time when they need to be learning. By time they figure out that the stereotype of a NERD isn't accurate, it's too late. They're too behind in things like math and science and can't keep up. He's also tying this into the view American culture takes on the 'intellectual'. It looks like the book is out of print now: http://www.amazon.com/...e-Them/dp/1585425907 but he's done another book: Nerds: How Dorks, Dweebs, Techies, and Trekkies Can Save America and Why They Might Be Our Last Hope http://www.amazon.com/...erica/dp/B006CDL97C/ I think Anderegg is coming at this from someone who works with kids. So he's not talking about how labels, the way we use them and the way we define them affect adults. He's talking about how they affect kids. I don't think what he's trying to say affects discussions we have here on TORn about whether we're nerds or geeks and I will use the term geek to apply to my self without shame. But it is interesting to see how children may be internalizing a slightly different message from popular culture's view of 'geeks' that guides their choices.
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Alassėa Eruvande
Doriath

Oct 14 2012, 4:03pm
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Dude, I thought you were a girl! I guess I should have read your profile.  Do you think I'm a little baby?
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Ardamķrė
Doriath

Oct 15 2012, 12:32am
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You mean you're not a super intelligent genius child!?
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Lol, it's all good. I just think Liv is gorgeous and especially that shot of her
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Ring-Bearer
Ossiriand

Oct 15 2012, 4:04am
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I prefer 'Great Admirer of Tolkien'
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But either one works too
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zarabia
Dor-Lomin

Oct 15 2012, 5:57am
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Yeah, there's no nice spin you can put on dork :P //
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zarabia
Dor-Lomin

Oct 15 2012, 6:11am
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Isaac Asimov wrote several essays on this
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Though he didn't use the terms geek or nerd, he wrote about the anti-intellectual slant of American pop culture. He cited many examples of heroes who are known more for their brawn than their brains. And scientists are always mild-mannered at best, down right wimpy at worst. Either that or twisted and evil - "the Mad Scientist." Asimov had the same attitude as Anderegg: we need to embrace and encourage young people who are into math and science instead of making them feel inferior. (I don't remember all the details, I read these long ago when I was a kid. A kid who adored Isaac Asimov. I was, and still am, a geek/nerd )
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Kelvarhin
Gondolin

Oct 15 2012, 12:39pm
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So, do you think I look like one of my kitties?//
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Kelvarhin
Gondolin

Oct 15 2012, 12:41pm
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manage to pick the cute little Magpie?
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Alassėa Eruvande
Doriath

Oct 15 2012, 1:19pm
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I also pictured you as LIam Neeson. Is that your boy? What game are you playing?
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Magpie
Elvenhome

Oct 15 2012, 1:57pm
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in the 2009 and 2011 editions. I might have looked cute in the 2009 photo but in the 2011, I looked bossy. And I was. First child... what can I say. :-)
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SirDennisC
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Oct 15 2012, 2:59pm
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is the name of one of my favourite Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes songs. I always picture you as this super-cute, spunky Texas girl. I bet I'm pretty close on all counts. The game we are playing is called HeroScape. I ran a thread about it here about 4 years ago. (You can see more pictures of the game in all its geeky glory in there!) And yes, that is my son Sir Malcolm, whom I love and admire... he's grown a bit since then.
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SirDennisC
Gondolin

Oct 15 2012, 3:10pm
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and its origins quite harsh. IIRC it is derived from Dorcus which was the name of a committee, usually attached to a church, that would take up collections of clothes, food, and unwanted household items for the poor. Now this is going back quite a ways, to a time when helping the poor was often done by people who were poor themselves (as careers go, there is no money in it obviously). So basically we have a scenario where the name for a person asking others to help the poor came to be used in a derogatory manner. Very strange.
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DanielLB
Elvenhome

Oct 15 2012, 5:17pm
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It's a very good programme. I'd recommend it. All I could see was Boromir, mind.
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Alassėa Eruvande
Doriath

Oct 15 2012, 6:24pm
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Wow, it's as though you can see me through the monitor!
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Quote: "I always picture you as this super-cute, spunky Texas girl."
HeroScape looks like it would be a good game for the Eruvandes in a few years. We're still on Castle Panic and its expansion pack at the moment. But it's perfect for our 6 and 11 year old boys.
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Kelvarhin
Gondolin

Oct 16 2012, 1:11am
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But I wasn't about to give any pointers  Aw but you were a cute bossy too
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zarabia
Dor-Lomin

Oct 16 2012, 1:54am
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a very sad commentary on attitudes towards the poor.
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