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imin
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Sep 23 2012, 6:26pm
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I am hoping its going to be 2:42 and 29 seconds, lol.
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Either way i think we might have to ask geordie if we can 'borrow' a first edition copy (i am assuming he has it  )
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Estel78
Dor-Lomin
Sep 23 2012, 6:26pm
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But maybe he's just putting the final touches on the cut...
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Announcing a day would be odd otherwise. Editing is ongoing.
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Owain
Dor-Lomin
Sep 23 2012, 6:34pm
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I work in post and there are definitely many stages.
On the most recent show I worked on, we utilized several different stages to complete the process before delivery.
The DIT offloaded the content that was shot, backed up the data, did a QC check, and then transferred the data back to our post facility.
The content was then transcoded into an offline/online video encoding conducive to editing for story and grading/finishing.
So after the content was prepped (transcoded, synced with dual system sound, and master project files created). The project went through:
Story (Several Passes)
Rough Cut 1 (Several Passes)
Rough Cut 2 (Several Passes)
Final Edit 1 (Fine tuning, tweaking)
Final Edit 2 (Fine tuning, tweaking)
Lock (Story and pacing are locked)
Color Correction/Grading (correcting visual mistakes, making everything look pretty)
Sound Mixing
Delivery
Middle Earth is New Zealand!
"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."
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Estel78
Dor-Lomin
Sep 23 2012, 6:44pm
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Anyway, i'm dreading a shorter running time. I want my Middle Earth movies long. I don't get bored from spending time in Middle Earth. Please, PJ, don't disappoint me!
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Ring-Bearer
Ossiriand
Sep 23 2012, 6:46pm
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Don't forget, since PJ released extended editions for LOTR, he might do so later with The Hobbit. Either way, December 14th will be a night to remember!
'I will take it! I will take the Ring to Mordor- though, I do not know the way...'
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burgahobbit
Nargothrond
Sep 23 2012, 6:48pm
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I guess. But whatever the case I'm thinking it will be very close to 2 hours 30 minutes, more or less.
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Owain
Dor-Lomin
Sep 23 2012, 6:48pm
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I too look forward to a "chunky hobbit"//
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Middle Earth is New Zealand!
"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."
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burgahobbit
Nargothrond
Sep 23 2012, 6:52pm
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The fact that a film ending after mirkwood was actually a possibility means that this film will be shorter than LOTR. I'm just hoping that it won't be too much shorter.
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Estel78
Dor-Lomin
Sep 23 2012, 6:53pm
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But the question is, how much shorter.
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DanielLB
Elvenhome
Sep 23 2012, 6:54pm
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The film shouldn't be made shorter, when there is still plenty of material to be shown. If it's 2 hours, then they should carry the journey on, and have them enter Mirkwood.
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burgahobbit
Nargothrond
Sep 23 2012, 6:57pm
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I just looked up the word "commence" 
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Owain
Dor-Lomin
Sep 23 2012, 7:08pm
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whether the author of the article understands the various stages of post and what they mean by final.
There are several "finals" that occur before the ultimate final delivery... which is when we will have the accurate running time.
Seem's a little too early to have that kind of a figure yet.
Middle Earth is New Zealand!
"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."
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burgahobbit
Nargothrond
Sep 23 2012, 7:11pm
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I'm just saying it will be shorter than a LOTR film.
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With all the Mirkwood stuff cut out it can't still be three hours, other wise AUJ in it's duology form would have been 4 and a half to 5 hours (with all the Mirkwood/Dol Guldur scenes). I'm hoping for 2.5 hours for this first film now.
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Pipe Dream
Mithlond
Sep 23 2012, 7:16pm
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I hate to burst anyone's bubble...
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...the article says edit booth for final mix. That means sound design, (one of the last things that gets completed on a film) or the author doesn't know what he or she is really talking about. The final edit may already be completed, so the runtime may still be as rumored. 
"There is a long road yet," said Gandalf. "But it is the last road," said Bilbo.
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Owain
Dor-Lomin
Sep 23 2012, 7:18pm
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i agree... the verbiage is pretty vague. I think the report is probably accurate in that he is moving into the final stages of post... but like I've maintained in previous posts... that could mean a number of things.
Middle Earth is New Zealand!
"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."
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cameragod
Menegroth
Sep 23 2012, 7:27pm
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But knowing how news works a reporter writes the story and someone else writs the headline. It's not unusual for The headline to be totally wrong. So it may be Peter is doing the final mix... which would mean he is closer to finishing.
All artists are prepared to suffer for their work, but why are so few prepared to learn to draw? :BANKSY
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Kangi Ska
Gondolin
Sep 23 2012, 7:57pm
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Same as the Dark Knight Rises.
Kangi Ska Resident Trickster & Wicked White Crebain
Life is an adventure, not a contest.
At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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Elenorflower
Mithlond
Sep 23 2012, 7:58pm
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3 hours and 15 minutes
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Lissuin
Doriath
Sep 23 2012, 8:09pm
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Thanks for the peak into post production, Owain.
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It seems a miracle that a film ever makes it on to the screen. Tweak tweak tweak! One thing I've enjoyed about the Peter Jackson film experience is the chance to see how the magic gets done through the LOTR EE's and his production videos. It doesn't diminish the wonder for me, just makes me more intrigued. Keep those behind-the-curtain insights coming, OK?
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Owain
Dor-Lomin
Sep 23 2012, 8:12pm
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I enjoy him sharing the process too.
In fact, the Lord of the Rings and the Extended Editions were what helped me to decide I wanted to pursue a career in post-production.
I still marvel at not only the quality of the work but also the joy, passion, and ultimately the vulnerability with which he and his team share it.
Middle Earth is New Zealand!
"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."
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hutch
Nargothrond
Sep 23 2012, 8:19pm
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I hope the sneaky marketing tricksters didn't just turn two 3 hour films into three 2 hour films. Same running time, but more screenings and dvds to buy $$$. See what they did there? 
Davy Jones could've been Bilbo...I mean he was a Brit with a sense for adventure, singing & dancing. And think of the costs it would've save with forced perspective: he was ACTUALLY 5'3. He also hung out with a grumpy tall dude in a hat (Mike Nesmith.) While we're at it let's just have Micky Dolenz and Peter Tork as Merry & Pippin.
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