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DanielLB
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Sep 1 2012, 9:53am
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I can live with saying Smaug properly
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I just prefer my way of saying Radagast  . I've tried finding a clip of someone saying it my way, but I can't find any. I've seen/heard some before, I'm not alone! 
I wonder how the general audience will say Smaug?
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imin
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Sep 1 2012, 9:57am
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Lol i doubt you are the only one!
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Just like with Smaug i think with Radagast there are two obvious ways to say it. Unfortunately you picked the 'wrong' one for each, lol.
I think the general audience will say both like we do, but then after the films the amount of people saying it Smowg will grow massively and we will be a dying breed haha.
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macfalk
Doriath
Sep 1 2012, 11:15am
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I have been pronouncing Smaug correctly since I first read TH!
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Then again, my first language isn't English, so I suppose that helps
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QuackingTroll
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Sep 1 2012, 11:29am
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Anybody else checking if the website domains work?
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I'll save you some effort. They don't.
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lurtz2010
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Sep 1 2012, 11:52am
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I actually wanted The Battle of Five Armies instead of There and Back Again
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I think that There and Back Again would've worked better if it was the title of the whole trilogy instead of The Hobbit. For it to be the title of the third movie it would feel more like Already There and Back Again or The Rest of The Way There and Back Again. I understand why people wouldn't like the The Battle of Five Armies for the title but in my opinion it would be the best title ever, though I did think Attack of The Clones was an epic title too...
The Desolation Of Smaug is a perfect title for second movie, really what else could it be?
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DanielLB
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Sep 1 2012, 11:58am
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I wonder how they are going to relate the title of the film, to what we actually see
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The Desolation of Smaug refers to the large geographical area which Smaug destroyed. Not particularly relevant to the actual film - can we expect lots of flashbacks, unraveling the events, during the Dwarves journey?
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Xanaseb
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Sep 1 2012, 11:59am
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nice Avatar change imin :D. Just had to say that. //
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Join us over at Barliman's chat all day, any day!
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Dwarves: 'Erebor!', 'Erebor!!', '..Erebor!'
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lurtz2010
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Sep 1 2012, 11:59am
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what would you rather it had been? I think it's better if the titles are actual chapter names or other significant phrases from the book instead of something made up like An Unexpected Journey was
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Xanaseb
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Sep 1 2012, 12:01pm
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Yeah, you're probably right Daniel, they might indeed focus more in the 2nd film on Dwarven history perhaps..
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.., on the Physical Desolation that he caused, as well as of course his own Desolation. Clever use of words IMO.
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Dwarves: 'Erebor!', 'Erebor!!', '..Erebor!'
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painjoiker
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Sep 1 2012, 12:13pm
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An Unexpected Journey isn't completely made up...
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It's taken from "An Unexpected Party" and just changed the word Party to Journey to make it more relevant to the film ;)
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Sep 1 2012, 12:20pm
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Thank you, not sure how many know what is is of, lol. I am a fan of your blue wizards by Ted Nasmith :) //
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Sep 1 2012, 12:51pm
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For me its not an American rolling r its more a short British r, kinda not there as it just floats on the end of the au sound, make sense? lol.
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dormouse
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Sep 1 2012, 1:03pm
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Hard to know what 'the proper way' is sometimes....
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Smaug has always been 'Smowg' to me, but I've only ever thought of wot's-is-name as 'Rada-gassed' not 'Rada-ghast' or even 'Rada-jast'! 
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Sep 1 2012, 1:10pm
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4th July is an American holiday
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Looking at the calendar for July 2014, the Fourth of July that year is on Friday. It would seem to make a lot more sense if they released it on July2 - a Wednesday - giving them the full 5 day weekend like has been done before.
The rest of the world doesn't celebrate July 4th so moving the release to suit one holiday in one country makes little sense for an internationally released film.
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DanielLB
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Sep 1 2012, 1:14pm
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Ahhh ... that's what they will do
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Show the desolation caused by Smaug, and his own desolution. Not that of that.
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Carne
Dor-Lomin
Sep 1 2012, 1:14pm
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But I just pronounce the name as it's written: Smaug.
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Estel78
Dor-Lomin
Sep 1 2012, 1:18pm
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It is one market but by far the biggest market. Studios release big tentpoles on July 4th every year. Having said that, i dunno what is already opening on that weekend in 2014, maybe there's already competition. And it's not like July 18 has done badly for WB, the last two Batmans and the last Harry Potter have done well on that date (or thereabout).
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DanielLB
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Sep 1 2012, 1:24pm
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You'll have to explain that one Carne?
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Do you say Sma-ug then? 
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geordie
Dor-Lomin
Sep 1 2012, 1:27pm
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- of couse I know; I'm a collector. But I'll let you keep your secret, till you feel like divulging to the rest of the group.
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burgahobbit
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Sep 1 2012, 1:38pm
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to TDOS. There's no particular reason that we need the "The" in front. We don't use it with FOTR or ROTK. Just my preference.
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geordie
Dor-Lomin
Sep 1 2012, 1:40pm
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Smaug is smowg and Radagast is, well, as it's spelt
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- that is, with hard 'g'. Unless it were Anglo-Saxon.
In defence of this point; I was listening the other day to a recording of a very illuminating talk by Brian Sibley, on the subject of the BBC's 1981 adaptation of LotR. far from being 'curmudgeonly', as I've seen him described on these boards recently - ahem - Christopher Tolkien gave the scriptwriters a lot of invaluable help, in the form of a taped pronounciation guide. This guide was typed up for use of the cast and production crew; copies were made available to the Tolkien Society for sale to its members. I still have mine.
As part of his talk, Brian played an excerpt of Christopher's tape to the audience. Christopher pronounced Thengel as 'Thenjel'. Brian switched off the tape, and told his audience that he'd written to Christopher querying this, and that CT had replied that he was mistaken. 'Thengel' - with a hard 'g' - was the way his father pronounced the name, and therefore correct. Mind you, 'Thenjel' would have been the correct way to pronounce the name in Anglo-Saxon - So now we know!
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DanielLB
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Sep 1 2012, 1:41pm
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"There and Back Again" opens on the same day as "X-Men: Days of Future Past"
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Wonder if the latter will get pushed back or forward.
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Carne
Dor-Lomin
Sep 1 2012, 1:43pm
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I'll record myself saying it, hang on.
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