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At 5:32 EST, All Access Live on Spike TV interviewed Andy Serkis


Jul 13 2012, 11:27pm

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At 5:32 EST, All Access Live on Spike TV interviewed Andy Serkis Can't Post

At Comic-Con in San Diego. I'm paraphrasing much of the 3-minute discussion, but the meat of the interview is here. The cast will be in Hall H tomorrow (Saturday) to premier some new footage, and Andy's VERY jazzed! They talked about how much the technology for Gollum has changed.

The technology, I'm sure, has advanced a lot from when you first did Gollum. How is the performance different for you and is the character going to be different in this?

The performance has changed only in the sense that we didn't have to repeat everything for the second time with motion capture. Now you can shoot performance capture with live action all in the same get... and os all the interactivity is real. You don't have to repeat anything. The piece is completely whole when you shoot the scene. The character... Gollum as we know him...he's a little bit hotter, a looks a bit cooler... he's 600 years old; but in this he's 540 years old...

He's a somewhat smaller role here compared to The Lord of the Rings.

It's a seminal kind of [situation]. Peoples' images of Gollum really are about this scene in The Hobbit. That's where they draw all the visions of Gollum that come from Riddles in the Dark passage in the book.

When we shot the scene we shot it in its entirety; so that every time we did it, we shot the scene from beginning to end. It's about a 13-minute scene. We just played it all the way through. It was a really cool way of shooting it.

How did it feel to get back into the voice? I'm sure you do it for fans all the time, right?

He's really never left me. I had to hold back leading up to The Hobbit. I gotta find him again. It was really weird. I was almost doing an impersonation of myself... but it came flying back in.

Regarding his becoming 2nd Unit Director: I didn't know I was even going to do it until about 4 weeks before we started the shoot piece. [From Peter] "I really would love you to come down and do it because we're going to be sharing a lot...the principal cast is going to become second unit. I want someone who can take care of performance..." It was a huge learning curve...

What are you guys showing the fans tomorrow (Saturday, July 14)?

It's kind of vignettes of various different scenes from the first movie and then kind of focusing in on the characters... introducing you to all the Dwarf characters. It's about 8 ½ minutes introducing the characters.


I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.

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Jul 13 2012, 11:34pm

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I am disappointed. [In reply to] Can't Post

About the show on Spike, that is. Everything interesting was too rushed. I will not watch again.


Jul 13 2012, 11:34pm

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Thanks for this gramma!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Riddles in the Dark will be ~13 minutes! That's great!!

And lots of footage today (tomorrow for you) Laugh


Jul 13 2012, 11:37pm

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So wish i could be at Comic Con! [In reply to] Can't Post

8 1/2 mins of introducing characters, could get to know them well in that time, plus the vignettes would love to see those and looking forward to seeing some advertising the film when we are much closer to release :)


Jul 14 2012, 12:12am

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Thanks a lot for this! [In reply to] Can't Post

I can't wait for feedback on the footage, we'll finally learn more about the dwarves, and maybe even some of the other new characters (though I don't mind if a few are left as a surprise) Wink

Thirteen minutes of riddles? Sounds like they may be staying very close to the book!

~Beneath the sun, all things must wear to an end at last~

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Jul 14 2012, 12:26am

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Jul 14 2012, 12:59am

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The entirety of the scene as shot is 13 minutes long. Editing will likely reduce that a bit...

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Jul 14 2012, 3:49am

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Jul 14 2012, 5:54am

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I don't have a sense of these things... [In reply to] Can't Post

... but I'm *so* trying to figure out how many riddles cold fit in 13 minutes Laugh

The Plan 9 Interview... in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the release of The Fellowship of the Ring.


Jul 14 2012, 6:02am

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I don't think PJ should use all the riddles from the book. They all work wonderfully well in the books, but may not hold that long on film.

I would be content with four. Two by Bilbo, and two by Gollum, ending with Bilbo's unfair pocket question.

That could certainly take more than ten minutes.


Jul 14 2012, 8:38am

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Hence the "~" ;-) / [In reply to] Can't Post



Jul 14 2012, 8:39am

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I agree - I don't expect all the riddles to make it into the film [In reply to] Can't Post

But am hoping if that's the case, all of them make it into the EE.

Please, please, please PJ do not mess the riddles up Laugh

The Shire

Jul 14 2012, 10:47am

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Don't worry [In reply to] Can't Post

From what we've seen in the vlogs it's going to be good.
I actually got chills from the clip.


Jul 14 2012, 1:27pm

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I'm sure the scene will be [In reply to] Can't Post

I just hope PJ doesn't change the riddles Crazy

L.J. Kiosq
The Shire

Jul 14 2012, 1:36pm

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A quick question [In reply to] Can't Post

We will be seeing the panel (hopefully later on today). But the vlogs of Comic Con I have seen in the past exclude the videos that are shown to the audience, Does anyone know why that is? And will we be banned from seeing this nearly 9 minute treat because we aren't at Comic-Con? Can anyone tell me?

In case you're wondering, I live under a rock (not a hill) and am ignorant regarding many things.

Tol Eressea

Jul 14 2012, 1:55pm

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Excluisive content [In reply to] Can't Post

These people paid quite a lot of money to attend Comic Con, so the exclusive content is part of that price. Would be unfair if we got the same content a day later for example.

We will definitely not get to see the 9 minute treat (until the movie premieres that is) released online (unless someone illegally records it), but as PJ said, we might get to see some of it in the upcoming vlog.

(This post was edited by Carne on Jul 14 2012, 1:56pm)


Jul 14 2012, 2:05pm

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Never fear though! [In reply to] Can't Post

The trusty TORN spies over at Comic Con will no doubt give a full report on the footage Wink

~Beneath the sun, all things must wear to an end at last~

L.J. Kiosq
The Shire

Jul 14 2012, 2:10pm

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Jul 14 2012, 2:27pm

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I don't necessarily want all the riddles in the film- but I want what is included to come from the book or at least match its tone, Riddles in the Dark is one of my favourite scenes in the book-Along with the trolls, barrels and spiders, but unlike those scenes its a one on one confrotation between Bilbo and another character, and dosen't have the ability to be changed into an action scene. I love the fact that its such an odd introduction to the ring and compeltely out of place with the tone of the trilogy-I can understand why the other scenes I listed are being changed and I'm certainly not opposed to more action, but Riddles in the Dark is truly Bilbo's moment and a key reason why I like the book so much- its so evocative of The Hobbit's age and tone and I'm worried that it's one of the scenes PJ will change to match the tone of the trilogy better.

I've got to admit I'm VERY worried about this scene-the protganist and Gollum reciting archaic poetry to each other is hardly cinematic, and despite comments about its length and gollum's redesign by Andy Serkis I'm worried that PJ and Co will make the scene and Gollum more viscious and fast paced just to play up his image from the trilogy-its one of their main marketing hooks and subtelty arguably isn't always PJ's strong point, all my friends who have seen the trilogy, but not read the book are expecting the same sort of treachery from gollum this time around, and with serki's limited screentime they will want to make it memorable and gel with the trilogy...

‘As they came to the gates Cirdan the Shipwright came forth to greet them. Very tall he was, and his beard was long, and we was grey and old, save that his eyes were keen as stars; and he looked at them and bowed, and said ‘All is now ready.’


Jul 14 2012, 2:37pm

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For those interested, and want to check what time the WB panel starts in their country, check this website: [In reply to] Can't Post



Jul 14 2012, 2:49pm

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you are the best! // [In reply to] Can't Post


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Tol Eressea

Jul 14 2012, 2:55pm

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Thank you! [In reply to] Can't Post

Useful site, better bookmark it Smile


Jul 14 2012, 3:00pm

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No need to thank me Magpie [In reply to] Can't Post

I lifted it from TORn's ComicCon coverage feed Smile


Jul 14 2012, 6:57pm

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THR interview with Andy [In reply to] Can't Post


There is always hope


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