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sarahb1863
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Jul 12 2012, 2:34am
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Does that caption really say "Morgan Freeman as Bilbo Baggins"????
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 12 2012, 2:39am
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I think that is a very smart move
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Also, this is very, very interesting:
"In fact only this last week or two, we’ve been talking to the studio about allowing us to shoot some additional material next year, to fully complete the story."
I wonder what that is about?
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'
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QuackingTroll
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Jul 12 2012, 2:41am
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Maybe they're planning some new footage for LotR? Hmm...//
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QuackingTroll
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Jul 12 2012, 2:46am
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This could be a worrying sign...
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If 48fps really is the way forward, I think PJ would have more confidence to show it off... This kind-of suggests that he's worried about more bad comments. Or perhaps, by refusing us this, he's just building-up curiosity? 
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painjoiker
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Jul 12 2012, 2:46am
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I would assume it's just pick-ups for "There and Back Again"
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or do anyone have any better ideas?
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QuackingTroll
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Jul 12 2012, 2:49am
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And they wouldn't have to discuss it with WB, or film it next year... This seems to imply something else, and I'm thinking a new edition of LotR could be around a distant corner...
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JWPlatt
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Jul 12 2012, 2:50am
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Tom Bombadil
The Scouring Of The Shire
Hooks and references from The Hobbit placed into Lord of the Rings
How could the studio resist more quadruple double-dipping into the DVD & Blu-ray til?
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Jul 12 2012, 2:51am
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Regardless of whether 48fps is the way forward or not (I'm personally in the 'not' camp), the previous exhibition of the higher frame rate footage was not well received, and it ended up dominating the conversation instead of the actual content of the footage. They're going to want the comic-con buzz to be positive, so putting the emphasis on the actual movie instead of the tech is definitely a smart, if safe, way to go.
"All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds awake to find that it was vanity; But the dreamers of day are dangerous men. That they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible."
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QuackingTroll
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Jul 12 2012, 2:53am
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But it's a move that suggests they have no confidence in their technology //
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Jul 12 2012, 2:54am
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Well, I personally feel the movies shouldn't have been shot...
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...using this technology anyway, so it's of no consequence to me.
"All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds awake to find that it was vanity; But the dreamers of day are dangerous men. That they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible."
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TheCoon
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Jul 12 2012, 3:01am
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i hate that rtechnology has made films look so awesome screw all of it i will only watch the hobbit as a black and white silent film!!!!
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Jul 12 2012, 3:04am
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Suit yourself, but I won't be going quite so far - just 2D 24fps... in color and sound. ;)
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"All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds awake to find that it was vanity; But the dreamers of day are dangerous men. That they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible."
- T.E. Lawrence
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JWPlatt
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Jul 12 2012, 3:09am
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Mono, stereo, surround, Dolby 27.9 or holographic?
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TheCoon
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Jul 12 2012, 3:11am
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i will be seeing this film in IMAX 3D in GLORIOUS 48 fps
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with all my fellow TRUE fans
film technology will continue to evolve. one guy on another site is refusing to see this film just cuase its 2 parts.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Jul 12 2012, 3:20am
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Well, just so long as I'm not one of the biggest idiots. Thank goodness... //
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"All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds awake to find that it was vanity; But the dreamers of day are dangerous men. That they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible."
- T.E. Lawrence
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 12 2012, 6:11am
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Are you seriously being this insulting?
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I'm pretty sure calling people here "not the biggest idiots" implies that you think they are slightly smaller idiots than these other people, which IMO, is a violation of this site's TOS.
Just because some people do not believe 48fps is the wave of the future, doesn't make them idiots. Some technological innovations can be evolutionary dead ends, if they don't produce a product that is preferable to a previous one.
I mean, didn't Blu-ray beat out another competing technology? Are people idiots for not having considered that now defunct technology "the wave of the future?"
Technological innovation is not a linear process. Some ideas and products die, while others flower.
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AinurOlorin
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Jul 12 2012, 6:25am
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The Hobbit as a story, The Movie as an extension of the LOTR films, Peter Jackson, or 3D and 48fps movies?
Also, I can understand people being displeased with the films being broken in half. I have friends and relatives who are not as fanatic as we here, and, truth be told, there is a lure to being able to share the story with them in one comprehensive 3 hour film, as opposed to having to tell them, "yeah, well, you see, for the conclusion of the story, we'll have to come back next year."
Anyway, for my part I will see it in several formats, though 2D will likely be the most frequent, because the others cost a pint of blood or more. lol with all my fellow TRUE fans
film technology will continue to evolve you peons will not stop it dont worry you guys arent the biggest idiots one guy on another site is refusing to see this film just cuase its 2 parts
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WhiskFishercat
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Jul 12 2012, 6:36am
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Me too, this makes me sad that others are so negative
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I too, will be seeing this in 48fps and 3D to support PJ and the entire production and crew. They spent months researching and testing out 48fps shots before production began and in the end, they were all behind it. If PJ, Serkis, ect and the actors all thought 48fps was great and the way to go, and if WB was willing to back that up with funding, then something must be good about it. I'm surprised and ashamed at most of you and the negativity you have towards something you have not even experienced yet. Youre taking someone's else's negative opinion from Cinemacon based off of unfinished and ungraded film and basing your own negative review of it. PJ said it takes time to adjust, so why not give it a shot?
Why dont you experience 48fps with your own eyes, sit through the entire movie that Peter shot with his heart and confidence, and THEN have something to say about it. You know what? You just may like it afterall. Or you may not but please people stop with the judging a book from its cover nonsense.
It makes me sad that PJ has to pull back and not show his 48fps version at ComicCon. And as fans, why are we not supporting him? I'm going to see this the way he intended to, 48fps and in 3D. I could like it, or I could hate it but at least I'm going to give it a go. I believe in Peter Jackson, and if he believed in 48fps, then I am behind him until I experience it for myself.
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AinurOlorin
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Jul 12 2012, 6:58am
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Which goes back to my question as to what one is a fan of.
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Not everyone here is actually a Peter Jackson fan at all. I personally have great appreciation and respect for all he has done with the Rings/Hobbit films, and I am very thankful that he did them, even when I didn't agree with certain aspects of his envisioning (certainly there are things I wish he had done differently, though I generally love the films).
I think mine is perhaps the most common stance here, generically speaking, but there are many others. There are many who love the stories as they were written, and would have come to them with excitement no matter who the director was. Some of These may have developed Peter fandom (some did not), but from the start he was a secondary figure to the larger work. Others in this group severely disliked some of the turns Peter took with the work, and continue to resent those turns and him for having made them. There are some who discovered the story primarily through the films, and became huge Peter fans as much as they are fans of the movies themsleves.
How loyal one is to Peter's experiments and visions will certainly be largely affected by whether one is a fan of Peter as well as being a fan of Lord of The Rings. Some here are Rings fans with or without Mr. Jackson. 
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"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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Mooseboy018
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Jul 12 2012, 7:19am
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Am I obligated to have nothing but positive things to say about this whole 48fps thing? It's true that some people are completely shooting it down outright, but I think the majority of people are just concerned that it will look strange (at least compared to what we've been used to over the last century...) based on what others have said, which is reasonable. There's also the fact that people HAVE experienced formats that are similar and almost exactly the same as a film shot and projected at 48fps. It's not some new technology that's suddenly come out of nowhere. Some HD tv's essentially simulate a look that's at least similar to 48fps, and I've used quite a few digital cameras that let you switch back and forth between 24fps, 60fps, and other frame rates. And anyone who's seen a soap opera has seen what a higher frame rate looks like.
Now that doesn't mean the Hobbit will look like a cheap soap opera, something shot with a camcorder, or a movie being played on a tv with auto motion plus or whatever. But the general look of the movement will be closer to those than the traditional look of a film at 24fps.
So we have every right to be worried. There's definitely the possibility that we'll get used to it, but I think I speak for most people when I say we want to notice the content and not the technology, which is why they're showing it at 24fps at Comic-Con. Seeing something as special as The Hobbit for the first time shouldn't be about getting used to a new film format.
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Elizabeth
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Jul 12 2012, 7:34am
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...the practical issue of distributing 6,000 pairs of glasses and expecting the Convention Center to have appropriate projection equipment for the many screens required in that huge hall.
Join us NOW in the Reading Room for detailed discussions of The Hobbit, July 9-Nov. 18!
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