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DanielLB
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May 14 2012, 4:48pm
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It seems our friends over at herr-de-ringe have an exclusive image of a Dwarf Set.
Here is a rough translation (using google translate....):
Successful Snapshot: Our anonymous donor information has managed a photo of a part of a Dwarven backdrop to make the left just as the gates of Weta Workshop. Apparently these scenes parts were taken to a place unknown. Also set it to what exactly is unknown, but the dwarf runes, and the steps suggest the environment of Erebor. Maybe it's all about the entrance to the Lonely Mountain? Now the dwarf runes experts are asked of you. Who finds out what is written on the backdrop of parts and what does it mean exactly? Anyone has an idea, may contact us. UPDATE: The runes are the Hobbit by JRR Tolkien used Old English runes, representing here the English word KINGDOM (ie "Kingdom"). This is the same runes such as on Thrór card.
Original article and picture can be found here:
http://www.herr-der-ringe-film.de/...filme/news_87360.php
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Faenoriel
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May 14 2012, 5:53pm
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It's hard to understand what's going on here, thoug. "Kingdom?" Is it from Erebor?
But every word you say today
Gets twisted 'round some other way
And they'll hurt you if they think you've lied
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Arandir
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May 14 2012, 6:19pm
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Maybe the word "Kingdom" is only on one face of the square ... probably the rune inscription goes round the 4 faces of the column ... something like "The Kingdom of Erebor" or "The Kingdom of Thror" ...
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MTT Gandalf
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May 14 2012, 6:58pm
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It's a little bit strange for me...
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...that they use Old English runes in the films instead of LOTR dwarf runes.
(Ok, I know, that The Hobbit book used just Old English runes, but that time the story was not strongly connected to Middle-Earth. After the LOTR we had Angerthas and Cirth.)
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MTT Gandalf
Nevrast
May 14 2012, 7:36pm
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Complaining? No, just wondering! 
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DanielLB
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May 14 2012, 7:38pm
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It's only one of these minor details that we are going to notice. To everyone else it's the same.
Perhaps the Dwarf language changed in a very short period
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Xanaseb
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May 15 2012, 12:25am
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I am currently deciphering it into Erebor Cirth, in case it is -not- Old English as they say :D I know quite a bit of Cirth Runes....
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won't be long
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Xanaseb
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May 15 2012, 12:42am
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OK so judging by Anglo Saxon runes yep it'd be:
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C i n g d o m .....
BUT.... they've failed pretty miserably there... C should be the K rune. N and G should have been replaced with the NG (dipthong) rune...
*sigh* .... I agree with CTT Gandalf... they should have used Angerthas Erebor. Disgraceful to be honest!..... it's so not in keeping with ME history and culture at all.
I'm such a big Cirth fan too 
but oh well.....
awesome leak. though they should have gone for Cirth!! >_<
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Xanaseb
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May 15 2012, 12:50am
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LOL well in Angerthas Moria/Erebor this'd be: CH I L NG ND GW NJ
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sooo... yeah Kingdom's right lol
in Angerthas Daeron: CH I LH Z ND GW NJ
oh well
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MrCere
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May 15 2012, 6:36am
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Finrod
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May 15 2012, 12:53pm
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C i n g d o m .....
BUT.... they've failed pretty miserably there... C should be the K rune. N and G should have been replaced with the NG (dipthong) rune... A phonetic system wouldn’t have all three of K, S, and C. Often languages dump that K and just use C. Consider Welsh and Latin (pace kalendas).
NG is not certainly not a diphthong. A diphthong has two sounds, and in modern practice further applies only to vowels. Something like EY, AW, OY, or OW is a diphthong: a main vowel plus a glide.
We write NG in kingdom or singer, but it stands for only one sound, although in finger it does stand for two.
The word you're looking for might be digraph, but that wouldn't apply here either. NG is (usually) a digraph in English, but if there were a single symbol representing that sound, it would be monograph not a digraph.
…all eyes looked upon the ring; for he held it now aloft, and the green jewels gleamed there that the Noldor had devised in Valinor. For this ring was like to twin serpents, whose eyes were emeralds, and their heads met beneath a crown of golden flowers, that the one upheld and the other devoured; that was the badge of Finarfin and his house.The Silmarillion, pp 150-151 while Felagund laughs beneath the treesin Valinor and comes no more
to this grey world of tears and war.The Lays of Beleriand, p 311
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Xanaseb
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May 15 2012, 1:06pm
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okies cool :) :) thanks Finrod. Me not linguist ;) :P
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but to use N and G separately in this word was flawed no?
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grammaboodawg
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May 18 2012, 2:34am
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Herr-de-ringe had some fantastic
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and unique pics for us with LotR, so it doesn't surprise me that they're on the job now... bless 'em!! :)
I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.
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DanielLB
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May 18 2012, 9:24am
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I'm going to have to visit it more often!
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They always have news up really quickly!
Like the Thror's key - if only I had saved that picture 
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