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ImetLEGOLAS
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Sep 16 2011, 10:49pm
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Rings better then HARRYPOTTER
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Does anyone believe that the LOTR trilogy is better than harry potter?
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Sep 16 2011, 11:19pm
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Pedich Edhellen? Lau? Hria cuilë.
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ImetLEGOLAS
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Sep 16 2011, 11:23pm
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why do people like potter than LOTR?????
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Sep 16 2011, 11:32pm
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Everyone's tastes are different
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- thank goodness, or it'd be a boring, homogenous world.
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 17 2011, 12:11am
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A trick question. What's the twist?
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ImetLEGOLAS
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Sep 17 2011, 12:23am
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No trick question no twist
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Sep 17 2011, 12:24am
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That is respectful I understand
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grammaboodawg
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Sep 17 2011, 11:45am
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Doesn't Matter!!!
Hands down, for me, LotR is oooodles better than HP both ways. Especially when it comes to the films. But the books... I do dearly love Tolkien's LotR and I'm enormously smitten with Jim Dale's readings of the HP series on CD. The man is a genius storyteller, and I want him to read LotR!!! AND TH!!! If that were to happen, you can close the door and just keep the fridge stocked cuz I'll be in heaven.
I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.
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ImetLEGOLAS
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Sep 17 2011, 2:13pm
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I am a film guy but to get real Tolkien you need the books! On tape would be perfect!!! Yes LOTR over hp!
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Xanaseb
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Sep 17 2011, 4:59pm
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A DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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though I dont mind HP....but in comparison its like placing a mouse next to Mount Everest
"But the other two Istari were sent for a different purpose. Morinethar's and Rómestámo's task was to circumvent Sauron, to bring help to the few tribes of Men that had rebelled from Melkor-worship, to stir up rebellion and after his first fall to search out his hiding and to cause dissension and disarray among the dark East. They must have had very great influence on the history of the Second age and Third age in weakening and disarraying the forces of East who would both in the Second age and Third age otherwise have outnumbered the West."
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Kristin Thompson
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Sep 17 2011, 7:52pm
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Given how many relatively young children have read the HP books, that's a consideration. The volumes are fun, entertaining, easy reads.
You really need an appreciation for the English language to really appreciate Tolkien's brilliant but sometimes dense prose. His vocabulary was enormous, naturally, and his word choice has tremendous variety. This was a writer who knew the difference between an eyot and a sandbank. To some people, apparently, the LOTR books seem slow.
To give Rowling her due, she's brilliant at plotting, her characters are vivid and appealing, and she can write good dialogue. But her prose is generally pretty blah. I swear that's one two-page stretch where Dumbledore says something "calmly" or "quietly" six times! And invariably if he's amused, he "twinkles." Very narrow vocabulary. Quite often she will use different forms of the same word within the same sentence--and not deliberately. (What in the world was the copy-editor doing, napping?) The repetitions sometimes become quite distracting.
Basically, LOTR is one of the masterpieces of English literature. The HP books are cracking good reads.
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 17 2011, 9:29pm
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Glaurung63
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Sep 17 2011, 11:22pm
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my younger sister and I had a deal.....she would read LOTR and I would read Potter.....so I did, and she is....it took me the month of July but I did all 4100 pages....and the Potter books are better than the movies...although the movies are good. The Potter series read more like a detective story where LOTR is a quest....the mission is laid out. Potter got better and better, the first one or two books are like The Hobbit is to LOTR, then things get dark, but the plot is formed in the first book. LOTR of course has more layers to the story since Tolkien invented languages and lineages, etc, but I loved reading Potter.
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Ataahua
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Sep 17 2011, 11:32pm
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Basically, LOTR is one of the masterpieces of English literature. The HP books are cracking good reads.
I think you've encapsulated the comparison well.
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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Sep 18 2011, 12:43am
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I find it strange that people compare Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter.
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They definitely were written for different audiences. Lord of the Rings isn't a young adult novel, whereas Potter is. I suppose the popularity and the recent movie adaptations are the reason people compare them, but it still doesn't make much sense to me. I don't compare them because while both are fantasy, they're not completely written for the same audience (despite the overlap in appeal to readers of all ages.) Maybe comparing The Hobbit to Potter, since The Hobbit was written with younger readers in mind, would make more sense to me.
Wouldn't it be a more fair to compare Lord of the Rings to another trilogy that was written for a more similar audience? Maybe George R. R. Martin's books? Besides, comparing anything in the fantasy genre to Tolkien isn't exactly fair, since Tolkien's works have influenced the fantasy genre so heavily since the publication of his books.
Personally, I wouldn't necessarily recommend a child or middle-school aged reader to pick up Lord of the Rings unless they had a good vocabulary, because some might be intimidated by the complexity of the language and not finish the books. I'd encourage them to start with Harry Potter, or The Hobbit since they're easier to read. That way, they experience the genre, and if they like it, they'd likely be less intimidated to tackle Lord of the Rings.
“Tell me one last thing,” said Harry. “Is this real? Or has this been happening inside my head?”
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?”
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Kristin Thompson
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Sep 18 2011, 12:44am
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Of course, I realize that I used "appreciation" and "appreciate" in the same sentence, just before accusing Rowling of using repetitive vocabulary. Ouch! But posting on a board and publishing a book are two different things--and I didn't have a copy-editor, much though I needed one at that point.
I have to agree with Glaurung63 that Rowling improved. Prisoner of Azkaban is a leap forward, what with introducing Lupin, Sirius Black, and the dementors and patronuses, not to mention featuring the Time-turner. I'm not sure she ever really topped that, but the later books in general are quite good.
I do think the LOTR films are better than the HP ones, too, in part because they had the tremendous advantage of being made by the same director and crew all at once. The HP films have stylistic differences that are fairly obvious and make the series as a whole less unified. But it really is quite remarkable to watch the young cast grow up over such a long stretch of time!
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ImetLEGOLAS
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Sep 18 2011, 3:33am
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However mice are still wonderfull beings
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Duh is right, but I show respect to all fans, like I love LOTR someone loves HP, but in the films, Dumbledore looks like Gandalf now, :(
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ImetLEGOLAS
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Sep 18 2011, 3:37am
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Tolkien was a genius! He put so much love into it, the story wasn't made for money, he died poor, Rowling is the richest woman in England, with Potter that is no where in the literature range as Tolkien, he was a 20th century Shakespeare!
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ImetLEGOLAS
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Sep 18 2011, 3:37am
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What did you mean by Mods up? 
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ImetLEGOLAS
Ossiriand
Sep 18 2011, 3:39am
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I understand when I was younger Harry Potter was fun to read but LOTR is a quest, and the stories go on, especially with his unfinished tales, who knows the adventures!
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ImetLEGOLAS
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Sep 18 2011, 3:40am
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Well put!
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ImetLEGOLAS
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Sep 18 2011, 3:43am
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I see, but younger generations could read Tolkien's work, I think if they can study Shakespeare people can study Tolkien. Not to compare which is better exactly, but which people can learn more from, and enjoy.
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Sep 18 2011, 3:46am
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 Yes posting is different than writing a book, you won't be held guilty for that!  But to me HP just has the same storyline, where Harry is in trouble, learns a spell, his friends save him, Harry realizes over and over again that he has love and Voldemort gets away until the last one. Rings has a new adventure everytime in the most amazing world.
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Ataahua
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'Mods up' is a mark of approval for the post.
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A more in-depth definition (plus explanations of many other TORN-specific phrases) is here in the TORN Dictionary.
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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