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Maiarmike
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Jul 19 2011, 12:17pm
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I hope he's alright, and it's something the doctors can treat him for rather easily. I wonder if this will affect the production in any way? Hopefully he doesn't have to drop out or anything...
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
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namarie
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Jul 19 2011, 12:33pm
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Though the source is The Sun?!
but I see the news was taken from AP so I'll take it as the truth.
There is always hope
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Pipe Dream
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Jul 19 2011, 12:51pm
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This can happen on long plane flights. Clots can form from not being able to move around in the cabin and having your circulation cut off. They may have to go in and get the clot. I suppose there could be worse places to be stranded than Pebble Beach, CA.
"There is a long road yet," said Gandalf. "But it is the last road," said Bilbo.
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dormouse
Gondolin
Jul 19 2011, 1:23pm
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I hope they can treat it effectively, but it's a rotten way to spend your holidays.
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RosieLass
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Jul 19 2011, 2:57pm
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Treatable, but dire if not caught.
It is always those with the fewest sensible things to say who make the loudest noise in saying them. --Precious Ramotswe (Alexander McCall Smith)
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Patty
Elvenhome
Jul 19 2011, 2:59pm
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Don't they first do a round of Heparin and then Coumadin or...
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some such as that? Or do they always go aggressively?
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Snulle
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Jul 19 2011, 3:02pm
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I really hope he gets well soon. DVT can be very serious actually if not treated right.
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RosieLass
Doriath
Jul 19 2011, 3:05pm
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It might depend on where the clot is.
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Or how much blockage it's causing. If it should break up and travel into the lungs, it could be very dangerous.
It is always those with the fewest sensible things to say who make the loudest noise in saying them. --Precious Ramotswe (Alexander McCall Smith)
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Salmar
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Jul 19 2011, 4:21pm
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Hope everything turns out well for him//
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"...In the deep places he gives thought to music great and terrible; and the echo of that music runs through all the veins of the world in sorrow and in joy; for if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth. The Teleri learned much of Ulmo, and for this reason their music has both sadness and enchantment. Salmar came with him to Arda, he who made the horns of Ulmo that none may ever forget who once has heard them..."
"Of the beginning of days", The Silmarillion.
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Evernight
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Jul 19 2011, 4:26pm
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I hope you get well Mr. Nesbitt!!! //
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In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit...
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marillaraina
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Jul 19 2011, 5:42pm
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I hope he feels better soon and they are able to treat it.
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Pipe Dream
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Jul 19 2011, 5:43pm
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Yep. It depends on a lot of factors.
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I've seen a lot of these DVT related cases doing MR angiography (MRA) and venography (MRV) exams known as runoffs all the time, and before that I've been in a countless OR cases when they needed a C-arm or an X-ray to verify IVC or stent placement or to check flow or whatever. (or when they lose stuff...  ). It's probably minor-ish. Thrombolytic drugs and possibly heprin are probably the way to go first. However, I'm not a doctor or some self proclaimed expert, this is just a guess based on past experience.
"There is a long road yet," said Gandalf. "But it is the last road," said Bilbo.
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Ethel Duath
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Jul 19 2011, 5:48pm
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Yes, wishes for great doctors and a speedy recovery!
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I wonder if it's possible to prevent this by getting up and walking around every hour or so? I've never been on a long international flight--is that even possible to do? 
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dormouse
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Jul 19 2011, 6:13pm
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You can get special compression socks that are supposed to help...
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but someone his age probably wouldn't think about it unless they had some sort of health problems or related history.
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kiwifan
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Jul 19 2011, 6:20pm
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it used to be okay to walk around when I went on long distance flights but haven't done so in almost twenty years
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No one minded unless several people started doing it at once, blocking the flight attenants' way especially when they were pushing the carts along the aisles. I'd also lock myself into the loo and do some kind of calisthenics, as much as the rather cramped space permitted. Not because I was afraid of DVT but simply because I was getting stir-crazy.
'Goodness gracious, you really are a messie!' 'Oh no, I'm not, these are all just mathoms...'
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Alassëa Eruvande
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Jul 19 2011, 6:56pm
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I had DVT a few years ago, and if my case is similar to his, he should be able to go on with filming, no problem. The biggest pain in the rear for me was the twice weekly visits to the Coumadin nurse to make sure my levels were acceptable. I had to be on it for six months. Bleh.
I imagine he'll have to be super careful in any fight scenes to avoid getting little cuts, because you tend to bleed quite profusely when on Coumadin. You also bruise rather easily.
And suddenly the Tornadoes saw afar off a greenlight, as it were a cloud with a living heart of flame;
and they knew that this was no vision only, but that PJ had made a new thing: The Hobbit, the Film that Is.
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 19 2011, 7:13pm
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To quote Gilda Radner as Lisa Lubner...
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"Its always something!"
But seriously: I hope Mr. Nesbitt is back in trekking shape soon and without complication.
Live Long & Prosper.
Kangi Ska Resident Trickster & Wicked White Crebain
Life is an adventure, not a contest.
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Elizabeth
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Jul 19 2011, 7:26pm
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Yes, walking around is definitely a good thing.
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It's quite possible, and the only time it's frowned upon is when the flight attendants have carts in the aisles serving meals or whatever. Also, there are a lot of exercises you can do in your seat. The problem is on overnight flights, when you're trying to sleep.
They'll probably get it resolved with meds, as others have said, and then advise him to wear compression socks in the future.
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sharku
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Jul 19 2011, 8:11pm
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"He needs elvish medicine".
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Writing as a doctor, this shouldn't be a major burden, especially if it was caught early. As noted above, the real nasty is when a piece of thrombus breaks off and travels to the lungs, blocking vessels there, resulting in what is called a 'pulmonary embolus' or PE. That's the thing people drop dead from when they get off the plane at the end of their journey (rarely, but of course it makes the news).
A few days of injectable anticoagulant (enoxaparin) while the warfarin kicks in.
Given the obvious precipitating factor (air travel), he'll be on a 3-6 month course of warfarin, with an ultrasound scan to make sure it's all resolved. He'll need to be wearing stockings and take a shot of enoxaparin whenever he travels long haul from now on (as a recommendation).
It's probably advisable to not fly for a month after the initial diagnosis, which won't hold up production, and might mean he gets a round or two in a Pebble Beach!
http://www.yourhealthbase.com/DVT.htm
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KAOS82
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Jul 19 2011, 11:01pm
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hope he will get well soon...
TÚRIN TURAMBAR DAGNIR GLAURUNGA & NIENOR NÍNIEL
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Garfeimao
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Jul 20 2011, 8:19am
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He may want to invest in Business class next time
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The seats recline into fully flat beds. At least on Air New Zealand and Virgin Australia they do, not sure about Qantas, but they must be able to fit some of those on the Airbus 380, it's ginormous.
Peace, Love and Rock & Roll,
Garfeimao
The orange stripey One
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Bow&Helm
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Jul 20 2011, 4:43pm
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Well, I certainly hope he's feeling better soon. Doesn't sound fun...
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