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Kangi Ska
Gondolin
Jul 14 2011, 2:36pm
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One dip or two?
Kangi Ska Resident Trickster & Wicked White Crebain
Life is an adventure, not a contest.
At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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RoseCotton
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Jul 14 2011, 2:39pm
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'Yes' is all I have to say on that. 
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kzer_za
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Jul 14 2011, 2:53pm
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A lot of people liked the Gimli humor too though
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When I saw The Two Towers EE in theaters recently, plenty of people laughed at the jokes. I think it's more because they provide a bit of emotional relief from a pretty intense movie (especially on the big screen) than because they're particularly hilarious. Personally, I'm okay with some of it but there are some Gimli bits that still make cringe.
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Annael
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Jul 14 2011, 2:54pm
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well, that song's stuck in my head now. Not that I really mind :)
The way we imagine our lives is the way we are going to go on living our lives.
- James Hillman, Healing Fiction
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NARF and member of Deplorable Cultus since 1967
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Kangi Ska
Gondolin
Jul 14 2011, 2:55pm
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you are supposed to cringe.
Kangi Ska Resident Trickster & Wicked White Crebain
Life is an adventure, not a contest.
At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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Macsen
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Jul 14 2011, 2:59pm
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If they are using Bifur as a play on "bifurcate" (in the sense if dividing into two branches,) they might also be going for a split-personality disorder with him as a result of the accident, somewhat as DrDeath suggested.
You'd think they'd have enough trouble distinguishing 13 dwarves, without splitting one into two personalities. ;)
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Otaku-sempai
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Jul 14 2011, 3:04pm
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That almost sounds like a challenge! So who will be the first one to actually write the "Hero of Lake-town" filk-song based on the song "The Hero of Canton" in the "Jaynestown" episode of Firefly? It might start like this:
Bard.
The man they call Bard...
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Altaira
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Jul 14 2011, 3:22pm
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I wonder if he'll fight with it like Sam and his frying pan. 
I'm delighted to see such impressive attention to detail - just like in the LOTR movies, especially when there's an added bit of subtle humor to it. I bet we see lots of little personal details like that that will further serve to set these wonderful characters apart.
Koru: Maori symbol representing a fern frond as it opens. The koru reaches towards the light, striving for perfection, encouraging new, positive beginnings.
"Life can't be all work and no TORn" -- jflower
"I take a moment to fervently hope that the camaradarie and just plain old fun I found at TORn will never end" -- LOTR_nutcase
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Phibbus
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Jul 14 2011, 3:41pm
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Don't know if it supports or undermines the theory, but Bifur translates from the Old Norse as something like "Trembler."
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Macsen
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Jul 14 2011, 3:44pm
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You can see Bofur (and Bifur I think) around the table in the Empire picture of Bag End and they look much more 'real' than they do here. I think these pictures have been 'stylized' (if that's the word I'm looking for) to a degree and look much more cartoony that what we will eventually see on screen.
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Turambar
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Jul 14 2011, 3:47pm
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Judging from that picture, I'm going to guess that Dwalin is the one with the white beard and the bald one is Balin (as we all know full well which one Thorin is).
This thing all things devours:
Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays king, ruins town,
And beats high mountain down.
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Flagg
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Jul 14 2011, 3:49pm
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I think it's the other way round.
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Balin's age is emphasised in the book, and I think the filmmakers will stay true to it by making him the white-haired one.
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RoseCotton
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Jul 14 2011, 3:52pm
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If Tolkien was writing the movie script...
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... I think the Old Norse meaning might very stand a chance of playing some part in Bifur's more detailed characterisation (although -- who knows precisely what traits the word 'trembler' might contribute).
However, the English meaning of Bifur (or at least bifurcation) could've been suggestive when the actual screenwriters began their necessary task of fleshing out Tolkien's rather rough character sketches (well, rough in some cases).
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Phibbus
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Jul 14 2011, 3:53pm
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And the white hair might have a bit of that bluish, elderly tint that people keep mentioning.
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Zloy
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Jul 14 2011, 3:54pm
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http://cinemania.es/app/webroot/images/2011/julio/hobbit_enanos_hd/fili_kili.jpg
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Flagg
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Jul 14 2011, 4:03pm
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The good, the bad and the ugly
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Mixed feelings! We can see that the costumes and weapons are wonderfully detailed, as always. I now think Fili actually looks fantastic – he's got the prosthetic 'Gimli-esque' touches that make him believable as a member of the Dwarven race but still allow the actor's face to shine through, and that twinkle in his eyes is certainly endearing (and for some reason reminds me of Tom Hardy's character from Inception). On the other hand, it's now crystal clear that Kili doesn't have a beard... of any description... whatsoever. Designer stubble all the way. He's even more of an Aragolas than I thought he was. I just don't understand how they could get Fili so right but get Kili so wrong.
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Ethel Duath
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Jul 14 2011, 4:08pm
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Hail! Hail! The Gang's All Here! :)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnLTG8x_g_w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnLTG8x_g_w
It is quite a different look with them all together. I think I'm starting to get Mr. Jackson's idea here. And I'm willing to see how it all pans out--things may still be adjusted here and there before the films come out.
Thanks for doing this!
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Albin
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Jul 14 2011, 4:15pm
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Bomburs green clothing (and for other characters armour and clothing aswell) is perhaps a ''tribute'' for Bomburs light-green hood in the book?
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Darkstone
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Jul 14 2011, 4:20pm
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It's just some are more special than others.
Now isn't that special!
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Brothers, sisters,
I was Elf once.
We danced together
Under the Two Trees.
We sang as the soft gold of Laurelin
And the bright silver of Telperion,
Brought forth the dawn of the world.
Then I was taken.
Brothers, sisters,
In my torment I kept faith,
And I waited.
But you never came.
And when I returned you drew sword,
And when I called your names you drew bow.
Was my Eldar beauty all,
And my soul nothing?
So be it.
I will return your hatred,
And I am hungry.
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Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth
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Jul 14 2011, 4:33pm
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THANK YOU! I've been waiting patiently for one!
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With the high-res there so much more you can see!
All you have to decide is what to do with the time that has been given to you...
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Kangi Ska
Gondolin
Jul 14 2011, 4:34pm
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As David Burne once said " A celebration of Special-ness".
Kangi Ska Resident Trickster & Wicked White Crebain
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At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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Kangi Ska
Gondolin
Jul 14 2011, 4:38pm
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Knowing GdT's penchant for word sources
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he might be very well aware of this.
Kangi Ska Resident Trickster & Wicked White Crebain
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At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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RosieLass
Doriath
Jul 14 2011, 4:41pm
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And my opinions have modified somewhat.
Bombur is starting to grow on me, vacuous expression and all. I'm digging his...sphericalness. I can't wait to see the others trying to cart him around after his little dip in the black river. Heh!
Bofur is still fine. One presumes he won't always be wearing that ridiculous hat.
But I still hate Bifur. Or, rather, I hate that thing sticking out of his head. Even in modern times with modern medicine, you simply can't survive with a chunk of metal imbedded in your brain. Fantasy, or good fantasy, must still abide by certain rules of believability, unless your name is Mary Sue and you're writing bad fan fiction. So I'm hoping the "ornament" gets lost between now and December 2012.
It is always those with the fewest sensible things to say who make the loudest noise in saying them. --Precious Ramotswe (Alexander McCall Smith)
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