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QuackingTroll
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Jun 28 2011, 2:03pm
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Does anybody actually like these moments in the films?
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Gandalf Spinning on the floor in Isengard
Frodo waking up and calling every characters name in slow-motion
close-up of Sam's hobbit-stubble "Share the load, load, load, load"
Are there any parts you can't stand?
Also, has anyone noticed when Gandalf is talking to Frodo outside Moria "How's your shoulder?" When he says "...and the ring?" his beard goes from straight to fluffy, like he's towel-dried it?! This bugs me every time.
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Lily Fairbairn
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Jun 28 2011, 2:35pm
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It's funny what you'll notice, isn't it?
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I've never noticed Gandalf's beard changing outside Moria, I've never been able to see Eomer's sword fall from his sheath, even when I'm looking for it, and I never noticed the disappearing barrels in Faramir's cave until someone pointed them out.
I'm not a big fan of the wizard smackdown, no, or of the dwarf-tossing jokes, but the other scenes you mention don't bother me at all. Some of the scenes I greatly dislike are in the extended editions: Faramir's men beating up Gollum, the skull avalanche in the Paths of the Dead, Gimli's "oops" after shooting the corsair captain.
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eralkfang
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Jun 28 2011, 3:59pm
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And they're both in the Extended Editions.
In The Two Towers, the scene where Éowyn gives Aragorn her apparently abominable soup. While I like the conversation they have (and Viggo's reactions are priceless), I don't like the joke the screenplay plays on Éowyn here; haha, she's a woman who wants to go to war, of course she can't cook! It just feels… I dunno, a bit mean-spirited. I think the scene would have played just as well without the soup being abominable, with most of the humor coming from Éowyn just not leaving him alone with his soup, which is wholly in character for her.
The second is a lot of the weirder Gimli humor, like crunching the skulls in The Return of the King and the drinking game—it turns him into a caricature, I feel, and it misses the best parts of his jokes that are character-derived, like his claims about dwarven sprinting, which comes from him wanting to save face in front of Legolas and Aragorn and his usual wonderful bluster.
But ultimately, these are very small things for me, obviously.
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kzer_za
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Jun 28 2011, 5:49pm
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Parts I don't like from the first two movies
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- Nuclear Galadriel (mainly the voice distortion)
- Isildur basically comes across as a villainous bad guy when he decides not to destroy the ring (I didn't care about this until I read The Silmarillion).
- Gimli's "squirrel droppings" comment (movie Gimli has grown on me, but this part is just crass)
- Haldir's death (I don't mind elves at HD, but this is so melodramatic for someone so minor)
- Faramir's men beating Gollum (again, I'm okay with the overall Filmamir change, but this is gratuitous)
These are the scenes that stood out to me on the most recent rewatch in theaters. I would list a couple of things from RotK, but I think I'll wait to see it tonight first!
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Gandalf'sMother
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Jun 28 2011, 7:09pm
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Weathertop, Weathertop. Without a doubt the most abominable scene in the films. What should have been an intensely frightening sequence was turned into a brightly-lit battle royale. The potential for real horror should have set this one up for success, and instead we ended up with a torch embedded in a stuntman's face...
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Bound
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Jun 28 2011, 8:13pm
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Annoying scenes or annoying editing...
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There are scenes that you mentioned that are simply odd scenes to shot and use, such as the "Share The Load"... that one always makes me giggle..
No biggest issuse is scenes that are bad in terms of editing ... the worse case of this is the scene where Merry and Pippin are escaping from the Uruk Hai in TTT. There is some really horrible editing that show the hobbits hands tied, then a horse nearly stands on them (and magicaly their hands are untied) and then the next shot is them back on the hands and knees.. still tied up...
if i was to get very picky - I could have done with out the Warg Riders attack too... what a pointless and badly executed scene...
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QuackingTroll
Doriath
Jun 28 2011, 8:21pm
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The huorn scene "Keep away from the trees"
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While a good scene is edited in really badly like they didn't know where to put it...
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Bound
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Jun 28 2011, 8:24pm
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Of all 3 movies, TTT suffers worse from scenes that were editied badly and pacing. It was really was the middle child - they didn't know what to do with it at times.
Don't get me wrong, I still love it but it's the weakest of the three.
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Lily Fairbairn
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Jun 28 2011, 8:34pm
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I think the worst editing in the trilogy...
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...isn't the hobbits' hands in TTT, it's Boromir's hand on and then off and then on and then off Aragorn's shoulder during his death scene in FotR. At least, I noticed that the very first time I saw the movie, but it took me several viewings to notice the hobbits' hands in TTT.
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Jun 28 2011, 8:35pm
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I like Gandalf spinning on the floor.
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Bound
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Jun 28 2011, 8:37pm
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funny how people pick up on different things...
Look lets be honest here... Continuity issues are very common in big block buster movies and I've always felt that with LoTR's it was even worse because they shot all 3 movies back to back, they shot stuff all over the place ( as in - one day they'd shoot a scene and then not come back to shoot the coverage of the scene for months on end)...
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Lily Fairbairn
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Jun 28 2011, 8:53pm
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When you consider the disjointed way the movies were filmed, it's amazing they fit together as well as they do. And I'm sure one reason we've noticed so many glitches is because we've watched them over and over again.
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Bound
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Jun 28 2011, 8:55pm
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I saw very few of the Edits mistakes in the cinema...
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Wraith Buster
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Jun 28 2011, 10:45pm
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Gandalf spinning around on the floor in Isengard. . The other ones you mentioned are so/so for me. Okay, but I don't love them.
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tolkiennerd
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Jun 28 2011, 11:17pm
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Is when Gandalf is coughing his lungs out in the ROTK EE. It just seems like cheap none smoking propaganda and this is coming from someone who hates smoking.
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LordElrond
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Jun 29 2011, 8:20am
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how could you hate Gandalf spinning???
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that was actually one of my favorite moments lol
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QuackingTroll
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Jun 29 2011, 10:54am
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You don't think it looks a bit daft?
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I have to supress laughter most times that bit comes on. (The other times I supress nothing and just laugh). What do you like about it? Maybe you can sway me on this, I don;t understand what reason Saruman has for spinning Gandalf around a bit?? The usual reason is "coz it looks cool" but in this case it doesn't... it looks like an old man spinning.
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Jun 29 2011, 2:48pm
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Heck, there are parts of the books I don't like much...I have to be in a very patient mood to deal with Ioreth, for one -- and it took me a few readings to warm up to Tom Bombadil and Rohan in general..
Spinning Gandalf, share the load, slow-mo Frod, no, they don't bug me so much -- not my favorite scenes, but I sort of understand why they put them in there, that they were included to achieve a certain effect or something, so I can accept them. I'm more bugged by the need to do mental somersaults to explain things like Why Arwen is Dying...you can do it, but it just takes a lot of work! My poor brain can't handle it some days!
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Elberbeth
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Jun 29 2011, 3:42pm
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It's sometimes the length of certain bits that bother me
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such as the wizard's smackdown, and the Legolas vs the cave troll -- but it's mostly that those few extra seconds could have been used for something else that was either omitted or truncated.
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Jun 29 2011, 5:42pm
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Oh, the Arwen stuff! Elrond's diolauge is awesome! "She will no long withstand the evil..."//
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Some who have read the book, or at any rate have reviewed it, have found it boring, absurd, or contemptible; and I have no cause to complain, since I have similar opinions of their works, or of the kinds of writing they evidently prefer.
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Jun 29 2011, 5:48pm
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The only thing that really is painful for me to watch is Aragorn and the Palantir.
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It's too melodramatic for me. And I don't understand the breaking of the necklace either. 
Oh well. I can stand other stuff. Arwen's dying is kind of silly but, I can handle it. I like listening to Elrond's dialogue. Makes me giggle.
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Laerasëa
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Jun 29 2011, 7:27pm
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An oldie, I know, but the one that I will never really get over. It just goes so against the relationship that Frodo and Sam have (even with the Ring) that I always have an issue with it. If I am watching the movie in a place where I can't fastforward, then I will use that moment to get a snack or use the restroom, and if I can fastforward, then problem solved. I really have difficulty watching that scene.
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Darkstone
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Jun 29 2011, 9:39pm
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It's mainly the extra scenes in the EEs that are fail.
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Except for the gift-giving I can do without just about all the added scenes in the FOTR-EE. Same with the ROTK-EE, and most of the TTT-EE.
There was a reason these scenes were cut and people's complaints (like with the Gandalf-WiKi confrontation) prove Jackson's wisdom in editing them out.
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Jun 29 2011, 10:53pm
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I dunno lol I thought there was something orginial about it in a way. It just shows that Gandalf has lost the battle and now has absolutely no control of himself so Saruman can just play with him and make him look like a fool. If I had won a wizard fight and had him on the ground I'd probably spin him around too.
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Jun 30 2011, 4:13am
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I think Saruman is threatened by Gandalf, so it makes sense that, winning the fight, he'd add a little more humiliation in the mix. Plus, spinning him like that could be effective in disorienting him so that he can't think straight. Makes sense to me!
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