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News from Bree
spymaster@theonering.net
Feb 3 2011, 11:54am
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The 'Show us your Smaug' Giveaway
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 When we posted a sketch of Smaug, little did we know the passion it would unleash. One of the great mysteries about “The Hobbit” films will be the design of Smaug, one of the most influential dragons in all of popular culture. Many have an idea of what the great worm should look like but only people behind the scenes know for sure and they aren’t talking. Thanks to forum member and Ringer Blueman for emailing us his sketch (on the right) to get the party started. The sketch that gets the most ‘Likes’ will win a copy of the BBC Lord of the Rings radio play! Good luck to you all! [TORN Facebook]
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BlueMan
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Feb 3 2011, 5:21pm
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I feel honored that I have been a part of starting this challenge that sounds pretty amazing!! Looking forward to lots of cool dragons!
Raptos a diis homines dici ...
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dormouse
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Feb 3 2011, 7:12pm
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Well done for giving it a try Blue Man...
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(and good luck).
It's an interesting sketch. Problem I have with it is that I can't see it flying - if the wings are at the back, what would be holding up the head and the front part of the body? Wouldn't that need a stiffer spine than you'd expect to find on a sinuous and snakey creature?
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M&M
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Feb 4 2011, 12:17am
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I love drawing, and I would defiantly enter if I could, but alas, I don't have a Facebook.
Still, I'm looking forward to all them dragons!
...I sincerely apologize for the n00b-like wording in my posts.
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BlueMan
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Feb 4 2011, 12:22am
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I thought with a lot of abs it could work, maybe? But, honestly, I don't know if this could work, I have done zero research into snakes etc. because I was first and foremost interested in understanding what GDT's descriptions really mean and how it would look if you read them carefully and also consider earlier remarks by Guillermo made on these boards. He probably could tell you how it could work and I am sure they worked something out (maybe a stronger spine) and did their research ...
Raptos a diis homines dici ...
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Cad Monkey
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Feb 4 2011, 12:37am
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Re: How do you interpret Smaug
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A couple of years ago when Weta first starting looking at designs for Smaug I produced some hand sketches at home and sent them to a friend of a friend who works in Pre-Vis at Weta. I believe they were shown to some people but was not told who. In any case nothing ultimately became of them but it was still a privilege to have been able to be ‘included’ in some small way. Anyhow, here are a couple of them.
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OnLikeDonkeyKong
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Feb 4 2011, 8:55am
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Can anybody shed some light on the original sketch? The article says that one was posted, but I can't find it anywhere? Or am i just being retarded? Help!
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Kangi Ska
Gondolin
Feb 4 2011, 2:30pm
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Kangi Ska Resident Trickster & Wicked White Crebain
Life is an adventure, not a contest.
At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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sphdle1
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Feb 4 2011, 4:22pm
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I'll submit the one I posted under BlueMan's thread
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Since this started from BlueMan's rendering of GDT's Smaug, I'll put forth my entry from that thread...
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BlueMan
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Feb 4 2011, 6:31pm
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Here's a link to the sketch mentioned in the article:
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http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=321389;page=1;sb=post_time;so=DESC;mh=25;
That one was posted on the main page and caused a big discussion because it looks like a cartoon character and is very unlike the description in the GDT interview piece. The post seems to have been taken down in the meantime ...
Raptos a diis homines dici ...
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Oiotári
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Feb 4 2011, 8:22pm
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you have kind-of a butterfly look going on, but not the dainty part
also, it looks like the wings would fold smoothly
my problem with it is that I think the wings, when folded, would extend past the tail, which might look strange
..The land of long-forgotten name:
......no man may ever anchor near;
..No steering star his hope may aim,
......for nether Night its marches drear,
..And waters wide no sail may tame,
......with shores encircled dark and sheer.
..O! Haven where my heart would be!
......the waves beat upon thy bar
..For ever echo endlessly,
......when longing leads thy thought afar
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Kangi Ska
Gondolin
Feb 4 2011, 9:38pm
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The wings arw actually based on an exotic Dragonfly
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& it is a bit blurry on purpose. It would take a lot longer to finish out the original so I smudged it just a bit to hide the flaws. It was the shape that I was going for. This is what my interpretation of what GdT was talking about in the New Yorker article
Kangi Ska Resident Trickster & Wicked White Crebain
Life is an adventure, not a contest.
At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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Oiotári
Dor-Lomin
Feb 4 2011, 9:50pm
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get around to reading that article sometime soon
I've read the snippets people have quoted, but not the entire thing yet (I have it bookmarked though)
Until then (I'm doing schoolwork right now, in case you couldn't tell  ) could you tell me: Is the dragonfly thing your idea or GdT's?
..The land of long-forgotten name:
......no man may ever anchor near;
..No steering star his hope may aim,
......for nether Night its marches drear,
..And waters wide no sail may tame,
......with shores encircled dark and sheer.
..O! Haven where my heart would be!
......the waves beat upon thy bar
..For ever echo endlessly,
......when longing leads thy thought afar
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sphdle1
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Feb 4 2011, 11:49pm
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That's a good sketch.
It kinda looks like smoke after the flame, but I'm guessing that is your signature and was just coincidence?
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StarElf
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Feb 5 2011, 4:05am
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Both are great, but I especially love that second one, Cad Monkey
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I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I used to work in a zoo and that is the EXACT posture and facial expression the vultures had when they crowded around some dead meat and didn't want anyone to approach. I can easily imaging that his body and the rocky peak are concealing charred corpses of the dwarves' ponies, or possibly some of Smaug's treasure, or who only knows what else.
I love it....very Smaug. 
Was the world being born what called me...?
At the bottom of the deep sea, I could hear a voice.
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Cad Monkey
Lindon
Feb 6 2011, 12:18am
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Its great to get nice feedback and I absolutely get you vulture comparision. Even though Smaug is a golden dragon I kinda feel that he should be horrible and repulsive too, to reflect what a depraved individual he is. After all death and destruction is what he is all about.
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duats
Hithlum
Feb 6 2011, 2:22am
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Smaug was a red-gold dragon?
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Cad Monkey
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Feb 7 2011, 6:40am
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..a vast red-golden dragon, but IMHO not a shiny and attractive red-golden colour but suitably battle scarred and disfigured (to reflect his personality)...
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Dragon81
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Feb 11 2011, 12:27pm
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I Dont have a Facebook account
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I am really interested in entering as i love drawing and painting, but is there any other way of sending my design to Torn other
than Facebook, would I need to register to Facebook. Is there any other way please could you let me know, and whether there is a closing date for sending in the picture.
Never Laugh At Live Dragons!
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QuackingTroll
Doriath
Feb 13 2011, 1:36am
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It doesn't take long to make a profile. If you don't want to share information just make stuff up! It's usful to have an account for things like this even if it's a fake one
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Witchy King
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Feb 13 2011, 1:46am
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Very Smaug!
"He is a moss-gatherer, and I have been a stone doomed to rolling."
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Flagg
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Mar 8 2011, 9:47pm
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Not sure if this is important enough to warrant a thread of its own...
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but the user esheming found what appears to be an authentic piece of concept art depicting Smaug. It was reputedly drawn by Peter Konig for Guillermo del Toro back in 2008. You can read esheming's original message here; unfortunately it was posted on the fifth or sixth page of the forum, and no one seems to have noticed it but myself.
The artwork itself can be found here; it's an unconventional Smaug, but I do like it. The horns and general layout of the face are very reminiscent of the trilogy's creatures, particularly the Balrog, but the carven, almost architectural quality of the upper head and lower jaw is more in line with del Toro designs such as Cathedral Head and the Angel of Death, both of which are from Hellboy II. Thoughts?
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