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macfalk
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Jan 26 2011, 11:28am
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Aftonbladet: Beorn taking English lessons & shoot begins Feb 15th
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What is this? Well, I suppose that since Beorn is supposed to understand what the dwarves & Bilbo are speaking about, he needs to learn their tongue, too 
http://www.aftonbladet.se/...lm/article8465557.ab
In case you forgot, this is the paper that had the scoop that Persbrandt was cast in TH in the first place, so read on!
Rough translation:
<skipping the not-so-important parts throughout the article, if you wonder>
"Getting ready - for an Oscar"
"Mikael Persbrandt taking English lessons and working out twice a day"
First he landed a role in "The Hobbit" - now can Persbrandt's movie "Hämnden" ("In a better world" U.S. title) win an Academy Award. Nöjesbladet can now reveal how the actor is getting ready for Hollywood.
Mikael Persbrandt is overjoyed for the Academy Award nomination for his movie in the Foreign Language category.
-This is the first time that I am a part of an Academy Award-nominated movie and it makes me happy and proud, he says to TT Spektra. Despite the tight shooting schedule, he wants to attend at the Oscars Ceremony.
This spring, Persbrandt has a super-tight schedule. February 15 is the day when the filming begins for "The Hobbit" where he plays Beorn, a shiftshaper character on good side. Mikael Persbrandt is also going to play Carl Hamilton [..]
According to Nöjesbladet's sources, Persbrandt is now working out twice a day to get in shape for the two films. Also, he is to improve his English skills before debuting in Hollywood
- He has already begun taking English classes.
The Hobbit will premiere in december 2012 in USA.
The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 26 2011, 2:57pm
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Sounds like an at least two unit shoot:
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Beorn would not have scenes at Hobbiton (Shooting to start at the same time) so I assume he will be working in the studio at Wellington.
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B.R.n
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Jan 26 2011, 4:57pm
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Or maybe he is...
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Jan 26 2011, 5:52pm
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they could be shooting out of sequential order ! Considering some actors are not available for all the shoot...
but i agree that it's almost 100% likely that Peter Jackson will use a second unit. I recall he was skeptical of GdT's intentions to shoot everything himself.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 26 2011, 7:08pm
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And why would you think so?
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Sunflower
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Jan 26 2011, 7:10pm
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"Clear your calendar starting in March, Mr. Perlman"
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I won't say how I got an inkling of that quote. but it may have some basis in truth.
It isn't going to be like LOTR--a solid family of actors drinking, eating, sleeping and breathing Tolkien for more than a year--rather, it's going to be like an airline with actors shuttling in and out of the country on a regular basis. Unlike LOTR, this thing seems to be coming together piecemeal. I hope a "family" atmosphere--where you can see and feel the chemistry on the screen that only comes from long months of livng together and becoming a family--is palpable onscreen for TH just as it was for LOTR.
I am sure Mr Perlman is having loads of fun watching other actors chosen for TH and yet managing to squeeze in time to film other projects. How long does it take to prep for a film that is supposed to start shooting this summer? July or August? Even after filming Sons of Anarchy, that would have left him what, 3 months or so to prep. Or do whatever. The clueless idiots at Universal had better green-light ATMOM, NOW so Del Toro can begin filming it this summer as promnised. But I have a hunch they're dragging their feet b/c an R rating for any film these days is a kiss of box-office death for a popcorn release, 3D or no. ATMOM isn't exactly Oscar material. Not for BEst picture anyway.
And Del Toro won't budge on showing all the relevant scenes in ATMOM and so can't tone down the film.
Sorry if this post sounds bitter but I can't stand the thought of Del Toro's brilliant crew, the techies and such, standing idle while TH begins. Oh, I;m sure some of them aren;t idle, but I mean, if they're bidong time to work with him.
It's obvious now that Ron would have indeed played Beorn. I wish this guy luck, but I wonder how long it took to find him and if it was a joint Jackson-Guillermo decision. He'd better knock our socks off.
And Ron had better have sa MAJOR role in ATMOM, he'd better be Tom Cruise's sidekick if not better, or I'll have something to say to the suits at Universal. I want their pain over this to have been somewhat worthwhile.
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macfalk
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Jan 26 2011, 7:14pm
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It's obvious now that Ron would have indeed played Beorn.
Disagreed. Remember what PJ said in the announcement of Persbrandt as Beorn - also, I think it's obvious that GDT & PJ had an idea to invoke a Nordic touch to the character of Beorn, thus finding a top Nordic actor suited for the job.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 26 2011, 7:18pm
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James Cameron will leverage ATMOM.
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Heck he could produce/fund/distribute it.
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BlueMan
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Jan 27 2011, 12:33am
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What gives you the idea they both wanted a nordic touch?
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I, too, believe that GDT wanted Perlman probably for Beorn (or one of the dwarves).
@Sunflower: I understand your grieving -- I am still feeling so sad about GDT leaving, it breaks my heart. I am not against PJ in any way and I loved his LOTR movies as a teenager when they came out - but I am doubtful about his casting choices, mainly Thorin and Beorn. I was entirely sold on Brian Cox as Thorin and will forever mourn not to see his take on the role.
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Jan 27 2011, 3:11am
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Facing the current Peter Jacksons surgery I seriously doubt that... 
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macfalk
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Jan 27 2011, 7:10am
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Because they have cast a Nordic actor? //
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Flagg
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Jan 27 2011, 5:06pm
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Perlman was going to play Beorn until Guillermo left. He said so himself in an interview a month or two ago.
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macfalk
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Jan 27 2011, 5:24pm
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Really?
Do you have a link to the article? 
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KingofAncients
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Jan 27 2011, 11:28pm
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Based on his little quip that he thought GDT was "writing the bear-man" role for him I'm glad he's not going to be Beorn. That is an arrogant comment and indicates to me that he doesn't even know the book character and was basing this all off of whatever screen version GDT worked on. Don't get me wrong, Ron Pearlman is a good actor but, I am confident that Pesbrandt will be excellent. I like the fact that he is not a "famous" hollywood actor. If Pearlman would have played Beorn, I would have felt I was watching him and not seeing an original take on a beloved character, and my favorite from the Hobbit. Ron Pearlman pretty much plays the same role in everything he's in. Big, tough, gruff, sarcastic bad @$$. Not my preferred vision of the noble character of Beorn.
Just my humble opinion.
"Stout men and lordly they are, and the Riders of Rohan look almost as boys beside them; for they are grim men of face, worn like weathered rocks for the most part, even as Aragorn himself; and they are silent."
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Jan 27 2011, 11:34pm
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"Also, he is to improve his English skills before debuting in Hollywood"
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Dialog Coach: "Up and Atom!"
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 27 2011, 11:49pm
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Did you ever see "City of Lost Children" or "Quest for Fire" ?
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You might change your mind.
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Jan 28 2011, 12:47am
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Beauty and the Beast (TV), for that matter. Vincent is the opposite of a sarcastic wisecracking tough guy.
I would have liked to see Ron as Beorn, I think he would have been excellent. But I'm also sure that PJ will find someone very capable of the role.
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"Of all faces those of our familiares are the ones both most difficult to play fantastic tricks with, and most difficult really to see with fresh attention. They have become like the things which once attracted us by their glitter, or their colour, or their shape, and we laid hands on them, and then locked them in our hoard, acquired them, and acquiring ceased to look at them.
Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you." -On Fairy Stories
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Jan 28 2011, 6:04am
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Whew, this had me a bit worried
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From the headline, I was worried that the article was going to be about speculation that he'd get an Oscar for playing Beorn. While such a thing is hypothetically possible, Beorn as he is written is not the type of character I think would earn a performer an Oscar nomination. Most of the story's emotional weight comes from Bilbo and Thorin, with Gandalf pushing the plotline along.
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macfalk
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Jan 28 2011, 8:36am
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Hmmm...KingofAncients has a point
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I don't like the sound of "writing it for me" and then calling the role "the bear-man".
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Jan 28 2011, 5:07pm
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His site is currently down for a major update?!?!
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What do you suppose the update is......
I'm hoping for some major nuggets on his Hobbit role that Macfalk will hopefully be able to translate for us!
http://www.persbrandt.com/
"Stout men and lordly they are, and the Riders of Rohan look almost as boys beside them; for they are grim men of face, worn like weathered rocks for the most part, even as Aragorn himself; and they are silent."
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KingofAncients
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Jan 28 2011, 6:10pm
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Can we get a photoshop image of Persbrandt as Beorn!?
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PLEASE........
Anyone, someone with artistic talent get us a photoshopped image of Persbrandt so we can have an idea of what he MIGHT look like as the beloved character of Beorn! Then we can discuss!
I don't know about everyone else but I am getting very excited about Persbrandt as Beorn, especially after the recent announcments and the fact that his personal site is currently down for a "major update"!!!!
Thanks
"Stout men and lordly they are, and the Riders of Rohan look almost as boys beside them; for they are grim men of face, worn like weathered rocks for the most part, even as Aragorn himself; and they are silent."
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macfalk
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Jan 28 2011, 6:38pm
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I'll be there to translate for sure! //
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Jan 28 2011, 8:11pm
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I don't see anything 'arrogant' about Perlman's comment – you are reading far too deeply into it. He couldn't remember the name 'Beorn', so he referred to the character as the 'bear-man' – a succinct and accurate description, really. I think most people would describe him as the 'bear-man' if unable to recall the name. I would like to remind you that Ian McKellen knew nothing about Tolkien's works when he was cast as Gandalf, and we all know how that worked out. I'm sure Perlman would have taken an afternoon to read The Hobbit in preparation for his role, and even if he didn't – so what? As long as the screenwriters and the director are intimately familiar with the book and its characters, it is not at all essential for an actor to have personally read the source material. As for your complaint about his acting range – have you seen Cronos? His character in that film is drastically different from the likes of Hellboy. He's far from untalented.
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