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Patty
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Jan 14 2011, 7:06am
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TheDigtitalBits.com is reporting that the release date of the Blu-ray EE of LotR...
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may be announced in the next several weeks, and is planned to be released on Blu-ray sometime this year. Sounds like they still are not talking about a release of the ultimate box set until further down the road.
http://thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents Scroll down to the release news.
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Must. Have. The Precious! Give us the LotR EE Blu-ray Ultimate Box Set!
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Patty
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Jan 14 2011, 2:58pm
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And Blu-ray.com has picked it up...
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http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=5750
Looking hopeful. Of course, this doesn't sound like the ultimate box set that's in my footer! Sounds like that won't be out until it comes with The Hobbit.
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Lindele
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Jan 14 2011, 3:05pm
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The Ultimate 5 Film Collection
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IS GOING TO BE EPIC!!!!!!!!!
CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!
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Patty
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Jan 14 2011, 3:08pm
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I will buy the EE while I wait on the Ultimate set. I don't mind paying twice for something that I want, but I didn't buy the theatricals because I didn't want to pay twice for something that I didn't want.
I'll bet all the extras will be in the same standard def that we already have from buying the DVDs years ago, just like they were on the Theatrical editions.
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Lindele
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Jan 14 2011, 3:46pm
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I'm pretty lame. I have 4 versions of LOTR right now.
Original theatrical, extended editions, the re-release they did with the new documentaries, and the theatrical on blu-ray. i don't like watching the theatrical, but I couldn't wait for the extended blu-ray.
but hey, if i want to blow money on one movie trilogy, i'm okay with it. i'll never hold back when it comes to owning LOTR
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weaver
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Jan 14 2011, 4:15pm
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well, I am happy for you and others who want the EE's in this format!
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I love my TE Blu-rays, even though I haven't even watched them all yet. Just the few glimpses I've been able to get show how much more you see and hear in this format. You are in for a treat!
I own both the TE and EE's on DVD -- so I'll probably spring for this as well, or that Ultimate 5 Box set down the road.
Thanks for the update!
Weaver
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Patty
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Jan 14 2011, 8:42pm
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I guess my long-time signature kinda gives away that I'm wanting these, and I have my eyeballs out for news of any kind relating to 'em.
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Patty
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Jan 14 2011, 8:47pm
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the original theatricals and the EEs dvd. I refused R E F U S E D to buy the LEs with the documentaries, even though I wanted to see the docs. Maybe the Ultimate Box Set will have them.
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Nazgul
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Jan 14 2011, 10:00pm
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Awesome news.
I know the idea of special editions has been damaged because of George Lucas' mess with the original Star Wars BUT I really think (and hope) that the EE of FOTR has its prologue updated to include Martin Freeman as Bilbo and an updated Gollum to match the TTT ROTK one (PJ mentioned CG Gollum in the audio commentary).
And also Galadriel's narration "history became legend, legend became myth" can be an issue since it implies that everyone forgot about the ring and the Necromancer lol.
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Owain
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Jan 14 2011, 10:57pm
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There isn't really a conflict with Galadriel's statement...
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No one in the Shire (not even Bilbo) was ever aware of what the One Ring was until Gandalf confirmed it. "A secret only fire can tell." Gandalf and the Shire knew of Sauron and that was alluded to in the Fellowship of the Ring as well.
Middle Earth is New Zealand!
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 14 2011, 11:00pm
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"History became legend, legend became myth..."
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That doesn't really refer to the time period that the Hobbit takes place in though.
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Nazgul
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Jan 14 2011, 11:14pm
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My bad! Just checked right now. You guys are right, for some reason I thought she said that after Bilbo's scene.
She says:
For the time will soon come when Hobbits
will shape the fortunes of all.
Fitting line for the Hobbit and LOTR :)
Anyhoo, I still hope the prologue has the young bilbo (freeman) for continuity.
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Owain
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Jan 14 2011, 11:35pm
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It's all good. That's one of the reasons we have a community...
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There's so much to keep track of.
Middle Earth is New Zealand!
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Ruijor
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Jan 15 2011, 2:20am
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I will only buy the EE“s Bluray...
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... if I“ll like the artwork hard enough; the artwork of my EE“s DVDs are truly amazing and it doesn“t get much better than that...
I believe this 10th anniversary of Fellowship would be an awesome occasion for the Ultimate Editions but I rather wait a couple more years for it and then in one glorious weekend to watch the five films alltogether plus the extras... 
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Veridandir
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Jan 15 2011, 3:03am
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I will only watch it if there are new extras. I didn't understand quite..Will there be new extras but far from all of it because PJ is now busy on The Hobbit? Or is it that it wont be much extras before AFTER The Hobbit because then PJ got the time to get everything they got in store in?.
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 15 2011, 3:04am
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I'm not buying this unless it has new bonus features...
Like those unused deleted scenes that I've been dying to see.
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thesithempire
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Jan 15 2011, 5:31pm
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I agree with Patty. I didn't purchase the second EE set with/new docs, even though I wanted to see those docs. And I'm not convinced I'll pick up the blu-ray set of the films if there's nothing significant added/changed. But I understand that many people want the known version of the EEs on blu-ray. So, assuming that's what this is, this set is for them. And that's great. But I'm holding out for the "ultimate editions."
Contrary to what some think, a lot of us fans look forward to new and different cuts and editions of their films so long as the originals are available. We can then debate the merits and flaws of each. The issue with Lucas was not his creation of the Special Editions (and, in fact, many prefer them), but his refusal to release the original theatrical editions on DVD. (Then, when he capitulated, he put out non-anamorphic versions, which no studio has done in years since high-def TVs became the norm).
While it's premature to expect Martin Freeman in the prologue at this point, I'm looking forward to eventually seeing that (and Gandalf's line "you haven't aged a day" will likely have to come out, since it'll be true of every character from LOTR except Bilbo, who'll look like he aged all 111 years since The Hobbit! Personally, I'd love a version that has an aged-in-makeup Freeman playing his role in FOTR -- Holm fans, don't get upset -- just saying it'd be nice to have one version as an option on some mythical upcoming five-version set). I'd like to see some of the deleted scenes put back in the film (e.g., Sam at the Gates of Cirith Ungol, which belongs in the film; the glittering caves; I'm sure there's a ton of stuff), and some left for a separate deleted scenes section (e.g., Arwen at Helm's Deep; pregnang mother delivering at Helm's Deep, etc.), however, that will require time and expense, which I doubt the studio commissioned during all their recent fiasco. Then again, maybe that's how Peter kept busy all this time. But I don't have hopes of that. Fact is that TTT and ROTK would benefit from a complete overhaul in the editing dept., anyway. (FOTR is pretty much a perfect film, except for the look of Gollum, but that's easily fixed.)
In the end, releasing the known EEs on blu-ray is probably the way to go, if the "ultimate editions" end up offering us new versions of the films, not just with improved sfx, but additional/alternate scenes, different edits, etc. With the benefit of hindsight, I think future editions with Jackson/Boyens input would be brilliant.
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JWPlatt
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Jan 15 2011, 6:28pm
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What I wrote to Bill Hunt at TheDigitalBits.com last night:
There is wishful speculation on the TheOneRing.net forums that, especially with such a reunion of LOTR actors returning in The Hobbit, more scenes (essentially pickups ten years later) will be filmed for an ultra-extended version of LOTR during filming of The Hobbit. Such an example would be inserting Radagast, who is in The Hobbit, into LOTR to make more sense of the moth which was used in LOTR to replace Radagast's actual role in the books. A series of small scenes would serve to cement the ties between the books and films. Naysayers do not believe the studio would allow this into the already extreme budget and would rather all the money be used for The Hobbit proper.
It would also greatly enhance quadruple-dipping on the entire series. What you might best speculate is how this would affect the schedule of any impending new releases, such as Blu-ray, if at all. Would they release ultra-extended LOTR Blu-ray coincident with the Hobbit with the extra scenes, or would they release the existing extended version, then wait a while (e.g. after The Hobbit part 2) and release it then? I'd put all my money on double-dipping the Blu-ray before and after The Hobbit. Oh, and add in the ultra-extra-ultimate boxed set with all five films and a five-foot bigature custom-painted diorama, with all the major characters from all the films, made of die-cast pewter set on on a full relief map of Middle Earth sold with every box. ;)
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thesithempire
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Jan 15 2011, 7:57pm
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Yeah, all of that!! Ultra-extended with new and deleted scenes & five-foot bigature with all the characters surrounded by Smaug!
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 15 2011, 8:27pm
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Martin Freeman in Lord of the Rings= BIG NO NO
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I admit that it would be cool to see him in those scenes, but I think it's completely unnecessary and unwanted (by most people). Even having the "option" to watch the Holm version or the Freeman version would probably end badly because new people to the series would most likely go for the version with the Bilbo they know from the Hobbit. And then Ian Holm's amazing performance would be ignored by them. I'd say there's about a .000001% chance PJ would ever do that though, so I'm not worried.
I do agree about inserting some other scenes into the movies though, like Sam at the gates of Cirith Ungol. I was really annoyed when they didn't put that back in. And the "mythic library scene" should really be in there too because Arwen's story in the Return of the King feels so obviously cut down to the point where it almost doesn't make much sense. But I think adding in the Glittering Caves battle would show Eowyn fighting too early. Her first moment to shine needs to stay in the Return of the King.
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thesithempire
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Jan 15 2011, 9:23pm
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If Martin Freeman IS Bilbo -- as many of us feel -- then YES YES!
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Honestly, why not let people watch the version they prefer? Ian Holm is a very fine actor. But he never captured Bilbo for me. Not in the way that Ian McKellan WAS Gandalf, or Cate Blanchette WAS Galadriel. Well, they now have an actor who IS Bilbo. And that's a RARE gift. I say go for it, and the let the fans pick the version they want to see. So long as you can still watch the original version that you prefer, who cares?
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Oiotįri
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Jan 15 2011, 9:31pm
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I suppose it's a problem of continuity:
On the one hand the same actor should be used for the same character throughout the film, at least where plausible. It is obviously plausible in the case of Bilbo in LotR since they have done so.
On the other hand the same-age Bilbo should look the same throughout a "series." It would be confusing to keep the original in LotR for those people in the future who will have seen TH before LotR.
That being said I am definitely side of the argument to keep the original in place. I am all for including new footage that was filmed during the filming of LotR, but I don't want any footage taken 10+ years later being added.
The wide world is all about you:
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Jan 15 2011, 9:39pm
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... Why not? With branching technology now in regular use, why not have a version for those of us who would like a consistent Bilbo throughout the saga? Personally, when Gandalf says, "You haven't aged a day," I'd like his statement to be true.
But if you prefer Holm's Bilbo, that version will be available for you as well. This way, everybody's happy!
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Oiotįri
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Jan 15 2011, 9:45pm
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but how would that make "you haven't aged a day" true?
The wide world is all about you:
you can fence yourselves in, but you cannot for ever fence it out
You can only come to the morning through the shadows
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 15 2011, 9:48pm
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I keep thinking: I am so happy that none of this is going to happen. (In my not so humble opinion)
Kangi Ska Resident Trickster & Wicked White Crebain
New Zealand is Middle-earth & today life is good.
At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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