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Otaku-sempai
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Nov 25 2010, 3:56pm
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Casting Rumor: Shane Briant for Mayor
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Actor Shane Briant reveals in the following video that he has auditioned for the Mayor of the Shire (or, more properly, the Mayor of Michel Delving): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcQBrxgtQfM.
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dormouse
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Nov 25 2010, 4:16pm
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I like him - years ago he was in 'Anzacs' - one of the best WW1 dramas I've ever seen.
But whether he gets the part or someone else does, it's interesting to know that they have a part for the Mayor of Michel Delving. Suggests an increased amount of hobbityness, perhaps at the end of the film???
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RaoulJ
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Nov 25 2010, 4:34pm
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Everytime I see something WWI-related
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.. I tend to believe it.. Peter Jackson is of course fond of anything WWI-related.. and he surely has seen above mentioned movie/miniseries.
But ofcourse it is possible that Shane Briant sent his audition in without ever talking to PJ.. But I did like his performance in the miniseries Anzacs. It is ages ago, so maybe PJ hasn't thought of it...
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macfalk
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Nov 25 2010, 5:56pm
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Dont know who this guy is, but wow! Mayor of Michel Delving? I like!
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I also loved the "I hope to be in The Hobbit" around 1:00 and everyone goes oooooooooooooo
Obviously the mayor of Michel Delving is not in the book, but I kind of like this (everything to see more of Hobbiton!). This a PJ invention that sounds great to me.
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Nov 25 2010, 9:21pm
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A hobbit mayor in the movie will be interesting.
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Nov 26 2010, 8:03am
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I don't suppose I should admit this...
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but the only thing I know this actor from was a version of Lady Chatterley's lover, from years ago.
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Doriath
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Nov 26 2010, 8:12am
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nice to get more potential casting tidbits but...
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am I the only one worried over the lack of a Gandalf announcement? Reasons for this have probably been discussed but I seem to have missed them. What gives?
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Elijah B.
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Nov 26 2010, 12:20pm
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Casting Rumor: Shane Briant for Mayor
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I hope it's not the mayor of Laketown, because the characterization Briant described is wrong, according to the book.
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Kangi Ska
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Nov 26 2010, 1:26pm
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Weli actually there is no mayor of Lake Town...
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There is a Master of Lake Town. Also The Mayor of Michel Delving was considerd the Mayor of the Shire by default.
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dormouse
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Nov 26 2010, 2:07pm
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This may sound a little crazy...
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... but his mention of a bow tie sounded to me more like a hobbit, if they're following the general feel of the costume design in the previous films. Not that I know how they will invisage Lake Town, but I find it quite hard to imagine a Lake Town in which bow ties would fit...
Also when he acted out his audition he seemed to be looking up...
Clutching at straws here, because I agree with your point about the characterization.
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dormouse
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Nov 26 2010, 2:52pm
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... it would be so nice to know that everything was settled for Gandalf, Gollum, Elrond and so on. But I tell myself that maybe there's hope in the fact that there have been no further casting announcements at all since the first two. We know the film is definitely going ahead and they're all hard at work, so perhaps they're saving the rest for one big casting announcement, or they're just going to go ahead and let the news leak out, or they think the casting of Gandalf etc isn't news because everyone knows who it will be... There are so many parts that haven't been announced yet - I'm guessing that someone, somewhere, is drafting out contracts round the clock!
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Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome
Nov 26 2010, 3:47pm
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am I the only one worried over the lack of a Gandalf announcement? Reasons for this have probably been discussed but I seem to have missed them. What gives?
I'm sure that it's just a matter of negotiating the contract. An official announcement won't be issued until all the "t"s are crossed and the "i"s are dotted.
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Nov 26 2010, 4:09pm
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And Frodo isn't Bilbo's nephew
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The movies make many small alterations, and I wouldn't be surprised if the script converts the Master to Mayor.
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Elentari03
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Nov 26 2010, 4:09pm
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for Harry Potter to debut and Thanksgiving to be over in the US before making any more cast announcements in order to maximize the press the announcements will generate.
My guess is they will make more announcements soon.
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Ainu Laire
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Nov 26 2010, 4:53pm
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Mayor of... the Shire? Strange!
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I am trying to imagine what the Mayor of Michel Delving would do in the Hobbit; it would certainly be a bit role, but seeing more of the Shire does sound exciting.
On the other hand, he could have meant the Master of Lake-town (which could have been switched to 'Mayor' for the films). And considering that the Master is a bit ridiculous, it fits!
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Nov 26 2010, 5:07pm
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he plays the Mayor of Michel Delving. He looks too hobbity and not nasty enough to play the Master of Laketown. I can imagine him having a part in the first film's opening scenes, as well as the second films's closing ones. Maybe he'll be in Hobbiton on a visit from Michel Delving, or perhaps Bilbo will have to travel to Michel Delving for some reason, and will encounter him there.
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Flagg
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Nov 26 2010, 5:13pm
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that the word 'Uncle' was being used as an affectionate term, not a literal one. Some children in real life refer to their parents' close friends as 'aunts' or 'uncles'. It wouldn't be much of a stretch for the young Frodo to grow up knowing his father's ageing cousin as 'Uncle Bilbo'. Or perhaps he only started calling him that when he was adopted by him.
I think the non-literal uncle/nephew relationship is even mentioned at some point in the books.
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Elvenhome
Nov 26 2010, 5:50pm
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I am trying to imagine what the Mayor of Michel Delving would do in the Hobbit; it would certainly be a bit role, but seeing more of the Shire does sound exciting.
On the other hand, he could have meant the Master of Lake-town (which could have been switched to 'Mayor' for the films). And considering that the Master is a bit ridiculous, it fits!
I imagine that the Mayor might be present for (or even presiding over) the auctioning of the estate of the missing-and-presumed-dead Bilbo Baggins. I definitely had the impression that Briant was auditioning for a hobbity role as opposed to a human one.
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dormouse
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Nov 26 2010, 6:27pm
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...the actual relationship is spelt out in some detail - 'first and second cousin, once removed either way' but in Bilbo's farewell speech at the party he says,
"For it is, of course, also the birthday of my heir and nephew, Frodo. He comes of age and into his inheritance today."
So you can't really put that down as a change the filmmakers made - it is in the book. They simplified the relationship by picking up on that alone.
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Altaira
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Nov 26 2010, 9:38pm
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As may times as I've read LOTR, that never jumped out at me. But, by golly, you've found a contradiction by The Professor, haven't you?
Maybe it can be rationalized by the possibility that Bilbo didn't feel comfortable calling Frodo his son (even though he raised him), but 'cousin' felt too distant, so he settled on nephew by default. 
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Nov 26 2010, 9:58pm
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It's not really a contradiction
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It was apparently quite a common convention in the days when extended families were the norm. Second cousins once removed are a generation apart, like uncles and nephews, and in fact were often referred to as uncles and nephews. In LotR there are several places where Bilbo is referred to as Frodo's uncle, as well as times when Frodo is called Bilbo's nephew. Here's an example with both 'uncle' and 'nephew', after Frodo wakes up in Rivendell:
"Looking in a mirror he was startled to see a much thinner reflection of himself than he remembered: it looked remarkably like the young nephew of Bilbo who used to go tramping with his uncle in the Shire..."
They went in, and Sam shut the door.
But even as he did so, he heard suddenly,
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Altaira
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Nov 26 2010, 10:14pm
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..it's time for a re-read!  (twist my arm)
More nice catches, FarFromHome.  I wasn't aware of that convention with cousins. Thanks for the additional details.
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Nov 26 2010, 11:18pm
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At least in German, which Tolkien of course spoke quite well. In German you'd refer to your first cousin's sons and daughters as nephews and nieces; if you want to be very clear you'd call them "second-degree" nephews and nieces.
Never spotted the confusion in LotR either, I have to admit...
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Nov 27 2010, 5:35am
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*giggle* I loved the audience reaction
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to his announcement :D It does sound like he wasn't sure what mayor he'd be... the Shire most likely, but he could also be describing the mayor of Lake-town. Although, the description of the Lake-town leader make me think he'd hold himself in high regard and would be more pompous and his stature would be more proper. His quick show if how he held himself and acted sounds more hobbity.
 
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carrioncrow
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Nov 27 2010, 12:41pm
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Master of Laketown. And i hope for his sake he hasn't botched his chance with his loose lips (and even a sneak peak performance  )
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