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macfalk
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Oct 22 2010, 6:07am
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Is R.Armitage (born 1971) too young to play Thorin?
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diedye
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Oct 22 2010, 12:44pm
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... but if they have to fatten up the natural way, I could give them a few pointers... 
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acheron
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Oct 22 2010, 1:08pm
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yes, but I thought Elijah Wood was too young to play Frodo too, so what do I know? //
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Alassëa Eruvande
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Oct 22 2010, 2:18pm
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I think with all the dwarf prosthetics, it won't matter.
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He's got a fantastic, deep voice that, although it makes me melt into a puddle, would work just fine for a dwarf.
I was picturing him more for Bard, but I'm happy with him as Thorin.
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RosieLass
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Oct 22 2010, 3:16pm
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It's a shame they'll have to wear prosthetics. 
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Donry
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Oct 22 2010, 6:06pm
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having looked at his picture. Thorin is not a young buck in the Hobbit. I really, really thought Brian Cox would be great for this role. Anyway, I thought about it and realized that they can age Armitage easier than they can make an older actor look younger. So I think with the prosthetics and make-up, the magic-movie-makers can get him looking the part.
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SirDennisC
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Oct 22 2010, 10:33pm
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Well it would depend where the prosthetics are attached.
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(Or if he needs any at all.)
Either way, I don't think RA is too young to play Thorin. I like the idea of agile, handsome dwarfs.
I hated the idea of him for Bard though... It is kind of a delicious irony that he was cast as a grumpy self-important dwarf instead.
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Arra
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Oct 24 2010, 6:41am
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is that they're trying to appeal to the B-girls among us, under the impression that a northern accent and strong glaring skills put him in the same bracket. I've been referring to him as a cut-rate Sean Bean since the first time I saw him ...
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SirDennisC
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Oct 24 2010, 7:08am
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I thought you deserved to be worshipped after the canned unicorn meat pic... now we have this in common! I no longer feel alone in this crazy world.
Thinking RA will be awesome as Thorin though... I really like how the cast is shaping up so far.
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Patty
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Oct 24 2010, 9:03pm
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I'd say from this that Thorin won't be the least bit humorous. Even though John Thornton did smile (and when he did, the sun came out!) I wouldn't say there was humor there.
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Magpie
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Oct 24 2010, 9:16pm
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I enjoyed Sean as Boromir immensely. I even have said I think he was head and shoulders, in that role, than most (if not all) of his fellow actors.
But Richard is not a cut-rate anything, imo. I never once thought of him in comparison to Bean and if I had to pick one for an afternoon at the coffee house... (presumably in some sort of costume), then I'd pick Richard in a heartbeat. Shiny buttons aside.
:-)
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Patty
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Oct 24 2010, 10:01pm
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With Richard Armitage (John Thorton)
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I wouldn't waste time in a coffee-house.
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Magpie
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Oct 25 2010, 3:04pm
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I was trying to keep it family friendly
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and honestly... every other scenario I came up with just automatically 'went there'..
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macfalk
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Oct 25 2010, 3:13pm
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What's so special about this person? //
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Magpie
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Oct 25 2010, 3:16pm
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I've always got time for that clip
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to get a bit more serious... not that I don't love school girl giddiness.
To anyone who watches that clip without having watched the whole series... you can't begin to truly place it in context. The strength of that scene is that it is the release of hours of reserve and conflict and disagreement and hidden feelings. It is sunshine and green in a story that hasn't had much sun or color. And that is what makes it so powerful.
And, I have been thinking about the plot of that movie in context with events surrounding The Hobbit. It's about industry vs 'culture'... profit vs working conditions... unions, strike action, scab workers, violence, struggle to make ends meet... And in the end, about people on two ends of an issue finding a middle ground.
btw, I love the music from North and South so much I went in search of the soundtrack and found it's never been released. There are fan versions of it : some people have tried to take out dialog and noise... some just left them in. You can find them if you search. But I downloaded everything I found and then culled through it, discarding mostly dialog pieces, put it in the best order I could, and put mp3 tags on it. If anyone wants it, let me know.
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Alassëa Eruvande
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Oct 25 2010, 3:28pm
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you'll never know. 
It's a combination of things for me, really. Sure, he's easy on the eyes. But he's got a charisma or chemistry that just oozes from every pore. And I like his deep voice.
So it's probably just a matter of taste. Arra likes Sean Bean. And while I can see Sean Bean's good points, he just doesn't do to me what Richard Armitage does. That fluttery feeling in the chest and stomach, like your first teenage crush. And breathlessness. And he's not even in the same room, much less the same country as I am.
Hello, my name is Alassëa, and I have a big crush on Richard Armitage. Yes I'm a grownup. And happily married.
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Magpie
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Oct 25 2010, 3:30pm
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probably something you wouldn't feel. :-) That is, as a young male your reaction to him will be different from Patty's & AE's and mine.
We're indulging in affection for Armitage's portrayal of men we enjoy watching. That's not to diminish his basic skills as an actor. But some women respond to certain types of men, especially in certain types of roles, very strongly.
For me, RA has the ability to convey a lot of emotions : strength, solidity, anger, tenderness, affection... sometimes multiple ones at the same time. In North and South, he portrayed a very closed off man who was not given to emotion or emotional displays. Yet RA had the ability to let us see deeper, beyond this facade, to feelings that Thornton wouldn't show to the world. Thornton may not have even acknowledged them to himself to some extent.
In the shows I've seen him in, he also portrays men who like strong women that are intelligent and thoughtful. Even, in Vicar of Dibley, one that does not conform to accepted norms of beauty.
So we are all 'in love' with the characters RA plays... but we also get there so easily because of the strength of RA's acting ability to portray these characters with real depth and believability. I don't fall for every guy I see. But I got it bad for RA (I will say, Matthew Macfadyen in P&P is another one and for similar reasons. I thought he was brilliant in MI5/Spooks even though that character wasn't as heart throbby by a long shot)
If I could pass on one thing about this, it would be that showing some tenderness to a woman can be the biggest turn on ever. And we're not talking sexual turn on. We're talking about affectionate... devotionally affectionate turn on. And I don't mean to fake tenderness either. I mean to look at a woman and 'see' her. To be present with her. To take her in (in your attention) to the point of shutting other things out at times. I'm sure the range of what women like is wide but I'm guessing Patty and AE (and others I know of) probably feel similarly to me.
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Alassëa Eruvande
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Oct 25 2010, 3:39pm
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That is it, exactly.
My head is so swoony right now I could hardly string words together. 
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Magpie
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Oct 25 2010, 3:40pm
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(raises hand) Happily married with grown kids.
These school girl crushes are great fun and more fun when you can share them. I think they're more fun as you age because any pretense of 'reality' is shed completely.
macfalk, If you feel moved to watch, I'd be curious what you think of North and South from your standpoint. British period dramas are certainly a genre that has its fans and lots of others who couldn't care less about it. So you might not even be able to kind of 'stomach' it (and I mean that with no snarkiness). But it has an interesting story and the dynamic between the Thornton and Margaret (although, there's something a little off for me in the portrayal of Margaret but I don't know what) is, imo, interesting.
You may hate it or be left unmoved. Which wouldn't surprise me. But I would be interested in hearing from someone who is not me or Patty or AE... who were born with the genes to fall heavily for this sort of stuff.
I watched Robin Hood and I liked parts of it and I think you can see a range of acting from RA in that series. But it strayed too far into cringe territory for me too often. I can't recommend it as serious look at RA's abilities... although I think it can be looked at within his body of work. I've seen him in Vicar of Dibley and again.. a bit over the top to completely fall for his character for me. But I tell you, my favorite part of that whole series is the last minute with Geraldine, Harry and Alice .. the 'after the show joke' .. which was always my favorite part of any episode.
And who can forget the fantasy wedding with Sean Bean's appearance. I howled at that one having noticed the set up for it (the photo on the wall) but didn't see it coming till it came. I howled.
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macfalk
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Oct 25 2010, 4:06pm
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I will never know. 
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