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MrCere
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May 18 2010, 8:15am
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Primula and other casting news / clues
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Nobody has been officiall cast for "The Hobbit," but there are some clues that despite not being able to hire anybody, plenty of auditions are taking place. The latest example is Caroline Grace-Cassidy for the role of Primula. We aren't announcing that she has been cast, only that she visited Los Angeles for an audition with "Lord of the Rings" casting director Victoria Burrows. It might be notable that this is beyond send in a tape or auditioning in the UK where she is based so it could even be a second audition or an in-person follow up to a previous recorded reading. Click inside to see a larger shot and more discussion.
This photo (check TORn home page and story for photo) of Grace-Cassidy gives her a Hobbity look, with even a suggestion of pointed ears that almost looks like it could be a costume test. It certainly doesn't look like her other photos but it doubtful that it is anything more than a Hobbity coincidence She is listed as 5'7'' and apparently has an ear for accents, adept at all Irish, Standard British, Easterb European and American slants on English.
We have no idea at all if this actress will get the part but it does give fans a few clues:
- The part of Primula is in, providing a few hints about preserved pieces of the plot
- Auditions and casting are active, prepping the production for official pre-production
- It gives us an idea of what type is being sought for Primula and an approximate 'Hobbit' height
To see more of Grace-Cassidy, you can check her on YouTube, see her IMDB profile or view her Irish acting profile.
For those not aware, the production of a pair of movies based on J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit," is awaiting a greenlight from the partnering studios Warner Bros. and MGM because the latter is facing a $3.7 billion debt crisis and could be sold among other options. Guillermo del Toro is set to direct while Peter Jackson and his team, including Weta special effects house are all in place to make the films.
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dormouse
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May 18 2010, 8:48am
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If that's so, then I s'pose they must be introducing something about the origins of Frodo - presumably at the end of the second film as he was born so long after the events of 'The Hobbit'. There is only one Primula, isn't there? I can't remember her actually being mentioned in 'TH' but if she was then I'm sure someone here will know.
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May 18 2010, 9:48am
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I would've thought they'd show us Bilbo's mother as part of his backstory...
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... but Frodo's backstory is fine too (I suppose) depending on how they fit it in.
My first thought is an epilogue showing us the death of Drogo and Primula, and Frodo's subsequent adoption by Bilbo, which would be a good segue to the Lord of the Rings without going overboard. But who knows!?
Interesting, to say the least 
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Oiotári
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May 18 2010, 3:20pm
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finally some news concerning The Hobbit
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that's not "MGM got another extension"
I'm tired of the situation looking bleak
so now anything that's not bad news is good news
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Patty
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May 18 2010, 3:40pm
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you took the words out of my mouth.
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Captain Salt
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May 18 2010, 4:12pm
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So, I guess the casting break-down WAS legit after all...?
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Hmmm...I'd also have to guess that Drogo and Primula will be part of the Necromancer/White Council storyline and not the Thorin and Co./Quest of Erebor storyline, hopefully...
Samuel L. Jackson for Bilbo, Woody Allen for Thorin, Lewis Black for Bard and Gilbert Gottfried for Smaug!
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macfalk
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May 18 2010, 4:30pm
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Also, only me who thought she looked like JK Rowling at her photo on the main site?
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Captain Salt
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May 18 2010, 5:19pm
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but she was listed as a lead in the casting breakdown...of course, so was the Mayor of Laketown, who is anything BUT a lead, so that document may have been totally inaccurate, (at least in regards to characters' significance)...
Of course, they' probably have to fill out the cast of the "Gandalf's Further Misadventures/Necromancer/White Council" subplot with characters not in the book if it's going to span two films.
Or maybe they won't. Who knows at this point...? 
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Oiotári
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May 18 2010, 5:29pm
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What casting breakdown are you refering to?
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do you mean the sticky thread at the top of this forum?
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Captain Salt
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May 18 2010, 5:31pm
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[PRIMULA BRANDYBUCK] Primula is a bright, lively and pretty young Hobbit. She is considered to be ‘wayward’ and ‘not proper’. But PRIMULA doesn’t care. - Prone to letting words and thoughts tumble out of her mouth without pause, PRIMULA can also be acutely observant. Kind hearted with a loving nature, she is the type of person who can light up a room. LEAD. AGE: 18-27 STANDARD R.P. OR SLIGHTLY ACCENTED REGIONAL ENGLISH ACCENT.
Read more: http://www.movies.spoilertv.com/...l.html#ixzz0oIs0fmLj
It popped-up online back in January, and the main page claimed it to be legitimate, then illegitimate...now, it's apparently back to being legitimate.
I suspect if it's accurate, Primula, Drogo, Itaril and the "Elf Lord" (Glorfindel?), will take part in the Necromancer storyline, with Gandalf serving as the link between that and the Bilbo/Thorin narrative...At least I'd hope.
Samuel L. Jackson for Bilbo, Woody Allen for Thorin, Lewis Black for Bard and Gilbert Gottfried for Smaug!
MAKE IT HAPPEN, PETER AND GUILLERMO!!!
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Captain Salt
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May 18 2010, 5:56pm
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It could be a coincidence, but it'd be a big one. The character doesn't appear in the book, then appears on a casting list, then an actress appears to have auditioned for the part? Generally, if it's a bit part, they won't cast until they've landed the principles.
Then again, it's possible a couple characters on the list were real, and the rest were to throw off anyone who wasn't supposed to see it. Then again, she could have one line.
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MAKE IT HAPPEN, PETER AND GUILLERMO!!!
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Melilot
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May 18 2010, 9:48pm
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Hello! It has been a great pleasure to lurk here for a long, long time, so you won't know me, but this I just have to comment on.
This is a wild guess but also something I've been considering for quite some time. They may be giving Bilbo a love interest. It wouldn't contradict Tolkien at all - he merely says Bilbo never married, not that he never considered it.
There are no women in the Hobbit, and a movie that huge is generally considered to need female characters. There may be something like a Bard romance later on (I rather think there will be), but that would be in the second part. So, just a thought: Maybe Primula isn't in there to provide backstory. Maybe she is the lady Bilbo has his eye on. Then he leaves, is presumed dead, returns more than a year later and finds she has married Drogo Baggins. Or else he is so changed that the understanding between them comes to a natural end. Again, no contradictions whatsoever. In fact it would provide quite a poignant note. As well as another thematic link to the LotR movies, because of course he is going to adopt her son later on...
As I said - just a wild guess.
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Eldy
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May 18 2010, 9:53pm
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It wouldn't contradict Tolkien at all - he merely says Bilbo never married, not that he never considered it.
Er ... perhaps not in some cases, but it would be a contradiction to try to insert into The Hobbit. Not to mention that The Hobbit isn't supposed to be a story about romance.
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Melilot
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May 18 2010, 10:01pm
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Er ... perhaps not in some cases, but it would be a contradiction to try to insert into The Hobbit. Not to mention that The Hobbit isn't supposed to be a story about romance.
The way LotR isn't supposed to be a story about romance? They still managed to insert a lot of Arwen into it...
I don't see how this would be more of a contradiction than all the additional Arwen scenes. It needn't have any bearing on the actual story at all.
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Sunflower
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May 19 2010, 7:26am
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Considering there is a 2nd film, I have a feeling that there's going to be..um...even more "interpretation" here then even for LOTR. And it will take some getting used to. But then, again, accepting the existence of the films precludes this kind of stuff for me. There has never been a film adaptation that did not tweak the book in a way, and generally, the bigger the book, the more the changes.
I'd perk up at this news, if it was legit, but we've been led down so many false trails this past yr I won't be happy until I read Xo's announcement of the green-light.
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Kangi Ska
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May 19 2010, 2:02pm
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In my opinion (Humble or not) I realy can not see them doing this.
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They did not see the need to give Frodo a love interest and it would be a nice tie to LotR to introduce Frodo's parents. This could be done in passing without complicating the plot. So I would say no...no Hobbit-girl friends for Bilbo. Besides being a bachelor seems important to the story.
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Darkstone
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May 19 2010, 3:08pm
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Actually I had the same thought.
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But I wasn't quite as brave as you so I kept quiet.
Anyway, it wouldn't be unprecedented. The addition of a love interest for Bilbo seems to have been a common urge to Hobbit screenwriters.
For example I’ve heard a princess was written into a Disney screenplay for Bilbo’s love interest. Thankfully Disney never filmed it.
Plus there is one of the early drafts of Gene Deitch’s screenplay for William L Snyder’s Rembrandt Films:
“Having assumed there was only The Hobbit to contend with, and following Snyder's wish, we had taken some liberties with the story that a few years later would be grounds for burning at the stake. For example, I had introduced a series of songs, changed some of the characters' names, played loosely with the plot, and even created a girl character, a Princess no less, to go along on the quest, and to eventually overcome Bilbo Baggins' bachelorhood! I could Hollywoodize as well as the next man...”
-Gene Deitch, “How to Succeed in Animation”
In 1966 Deitch did film an “ashcan copy” of The Hobbit for Snyder. It only had one public showing. I don’t know if the princess made the cut.
Is it likely that PJ and Co. would do it? One would think absolutely positively not. But the same might have been said about the Steward wacking, a sidetrip to Osgiliath, and “Go home, Sam”. If they’re in the middle of adding all sorts of stuff that *wasn’t* in The Hobbit, why not a fairy princess? After all, there *is* mention of "a fairy wife" in the text.
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May 19 2010, 3:18pm
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There are some who would argue that Frodo *did* have a love interest.
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Kangi Ska
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May 19 2010, 3:26pm
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And only because I have had a friend as close to me as Sam was to Frodo and nothing sexual was ever involved. True friendship goes way beyond such "trivialities". 
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