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Warner's needs to involve PJ more in the LotR Blu-ray EE, I'm thinking...

Patty
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Apr 20 2010, 3:50pm

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Warner's needs to involve PJ more in the LotR Blu-ray EE, I'm thinking... Can't Post

or else we may not get the uber box-set we're wanting.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/04/19/peter-jackson-on-the-lovely-bones-and-lotr-blu-rays-3-d-conversions/

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The theatrical cut of the “Lord of the Rings” Trilogy was just released on Blu-ray, and dedicated fans are purposefully giving the set one-star reviews on Amazon and other online marketplaces because they want the extended version on Blu-ray. How do you navigate fans like that?
I agree with the fans. I was heavily involved in the DVD process when the films were being released through New Line, but now that Warner Brothers has taken control over the releasing of the films, they just tell me what they’re doing and don’t involve me in the process. [With New Line,] the one thing we never did with the fans was make them feel cheated. Back in the original release, we always put extra material in, extra documentaries — a lot of added value. I so totally understand why the fans would be upset; I don’t disagree with them.

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Patty
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Apr 20 2010, 3:52pm

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how much I love this man.

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Smonocco
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Apr 20 2010, 7:28pm

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I'm glad that he's agreeing with the fans. However, I'm a bit confused as I remember hearing somewhere that P.J. and Andrew Lesnie were involved in it in some way


Ataahua
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Apr 20 2010, 7:38pm

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the one thing we never did with the fans was make them feel cheated. Back in the original release, we always put extra material in, extra documentaries — a lot of added value. I so totally understand why the fans would be upset; I don’t disagree with them.



...given that he's a fan himself *as well as* a film-maker. There's more to delivering a much-loved story on film than just developing the business case, and PJ gets that.

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Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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MrCere
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Apr 20 2010, 7:45pm

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I don't know that I agree with PJ.

I felt cheated every time there was a theatrical edition and on it there was a commercial for the extended edition. I felt double-dipped every time.

I felt cheated when the Costa Botes documentaries on LOTR never were given to the public in a format I could watch.

When there was a TE / EE version on one disc released I thought it was a cheat (much more after recently carefully looking at the quality) trying to get me to buy the movie again. Was that just Warners or was that New Line too? (I received those as gifts in the spirit of full disclosure, and am always humbled by any gift.)

I definitely agree that directors should be consulted on disc releases but I hold my Blu-ray discs with a digital copy as a much better value than the regular TEs - which I never purchased. I have raved about the quality around here and it IS so significantly better than a DVD that it does hold - IMHO - a great deal of value. But yes, I want the EE with a new director's commentary and some 10-year films-in-perspective pieces too.

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LordotRings93
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Apr 20 2010, 8:12pm

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I knew PJ would. He doesn't get sucked up into the marketing business like most directors. I think Warner Bros. should have just released TE/EE in one big box set. That way fans of both can watch em and not complain.

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GAndyalf
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Apr 20 2010, 8:14pm

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No WAY would I want to pay about DOUBLE the price for TE's that I wouldn't want and would never watch! Keep 'em separate!

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MrCere
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Apr 20 2010, 8:58pm

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They should do one of the following:

A) Release the EE & TE on the same disc since Blu-ray can hold at least 10X more info than a DVD, plenty of room but for the same price

or

B) Release both individually but at the same time

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Oscarilbo
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Apr 20 2010, 9:04pm

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I was thinking the same thing. In the trilogy oficial site, in the RESTORATION PROCESS SECTION, it says that Both (PJ and Lesnie) were involved, but it seems only as consultants rather than being actually there.
I only hope all this is taken as a chance for:

1 - Give an idea about what areas the triolgy needs some new "make up" to make them justice in a bluray release.

2 - WB learns that PJ NEED to be involved, WE AS FANS DEMAND IT !!!

saludos!

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moreorless
Rohan

Apr 21 2010, 6:16am

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The Costa Botes documentarys coming out on different editions rather than my itself was a little bit cheeky I agree but at least that release wasnt actually offering a different cut of the films. I never had a problem with the TE's and EE's coming out seperately because it was clear the latter simpley wasnt ready for release.

In this case whoever there really wasnt any reason why the EE's shouldnt have been released aswell, even if PJ is planniong on creating his own edition somewhere down the line the straight port of the original TE's looks like exactly what it is, a quick cash grab by WB.


GAndyalf
Valinor

Apr 21 2010, 7:44pm

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You're in media, right Mr Cere?

I don't believe any media company ANYWHERE would ever release a TE and EE at the same time if there were the remotest chance of getting crazed fans to pay double, even if they were on the same discs I see any media company as charging double or nearly double because of the content, not respective to the cost-to-produce.

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MrCere
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Apr 22 2010, 5:41am

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The film-to-Blu-ray transfer process would cost more but not the actual product. The same number of discs could handle it so the transfer cost would be small for the number of discs sold.

But you are right. Just because they COULD release them together, they wouldn't.

Even though they did that already for the DVDs.

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