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Arwen Skywalker
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Feb 26 2010, 12:46am
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Borg vs Witch King
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Who has the upper hand on forced assimilation?
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balinman
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Feb 26 2010, 4:34pm
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witch king.
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One Ringer
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Feb 27 2010, 4:10am
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The Borg are many while the Witch King is just one. So if we're talking about a situation where the Witch King is standing alone against the Borg, then I firmly believe that the odds are against. I think when it comes down to it, I don't think he'd bode well against an entire army who need but one touch to turn him to his side.
Now if he had his army backing him up, things might be different.
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Arwen Skywalker
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Mar 3 2010, 4:26am
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The Borg's methods of assimilation are cybernetic implants while the Witch King needs a special sword. The Witch King has a lot less of his kind to help him. However, with an army of orcs, they might be able to get close to the sheer numbers that the Borg have in order to win a battle. Although it might be easier for the Borg to subdue their enemies, their assimilation isn't always permanent. The Witch King's assimilation is permanent after a window of time. So it's an interesting toss-up.
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Operaring
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Mar 8 2010, 2:31am
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While the borg would assimilate the Witch King's army cybernetic implants would have no effect on him or the other Nazgul.
Quite simply the Witch King and the other Nazgul would be impervious to the implants and would therefore be able to take them all
out since the shields they have only protect against phasers and the like. Do remember that in Star Trek once the Borg have adapted
they are still vulnerable to hand to hand combat.
The Witch King and other Nazgul would simply sweep apart the drone's with the help of that giant mace and the winged beasts that they
ride and the drones would be practically helpless.
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Idril Celebrindal
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Mar 8 2010, 9:26pm
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Does assimilation work on the bodiless undead?
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The chief weapons of the Witch King (and indeed, all of the Ringwraiths) are psychological and spiritual: he can induce overwhelming dread, fear, and despair in his enemies and dominate weaker minds.
The Borg Collective can dominate assimilated minds and other species are certainly frightened of them. But they do not induce the kind of existential despair and dread as the Ringwraiths. The Borg depends on physical means (cybernetic and nanotech agents) to assimilate other races. But this wouldn't work against the Witch King because the Ringwraiths no longer have physical bodies. And the Borg hive mind has an Achilles Heel: a central locus of control in the person of the Borg Queen.
The Witch King could make the Borg Queen feel a level of fear and despair that would render the entire Borg Collective frightened and helpless. The Borg would be unable to assimilate the Witch King and bring his powers under their control, and would swiftly fall. Stabbing her with a Morgul Knife and making her into his undead slave would be gravy.
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(This post was edited by Idril Celebrindal on Mar 8 2010, 9:36pm)
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