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The Silmarillion?

Mattlight
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Aug 27 2008, 7:36pm

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From what I've picked up I understand (correct me if I'm wrong) that we won't be seeing any movies based on the writings of Tolkien outside of LOTR/the Hobbit. However, the prologue to FOTR was basically on something not really detailed in LOTR but that's in the Silmarillion - so I assume they can take some liberties with that. Anyways, I thought it would be great in the second film to have a section - prologue, flashback, story, whatever - detailing the history of Sauron, at least during the 2nd age. Show him taking power in Middle Earth, fighting with the Elves on the west, the vast Numenorean navy coming to defeat him, Sauron going to corrupt the Numenoreans, the Numenoreans sailing to the undying lands and getting destroyed, Sauron "dying" but returning as a spirit, etc. It would clear up a lot of things and tell a huge amount of history that movie-only people would benefit by knowing, and it would make for an amazing cinema sequence (the vast navy and the beautiful island of Numenor being destroyed in a vast divinely created catastrophe causing a huge rift in the world itself - wow).

Would this be impossible due to copyright problems? I sure hope not :)


Elemmírë
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Aug 27 2008, 8:03pm

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they can use anything contained in the appendices of LotR.
Appendix B, The Tale of Years, has a chronology of the sencond and third ages.

I'm not entirely sure though about the details of the copyright rules but that's my understanding of it :).

There is a pleasure in the pathless woods,
There is a rapture on the lonely shore,
There is society, where none intrudes,
By the deep sea, and music in its roar:
I love not man the less, but Nature more,
From these our interviews, in which I steal
From all I may be, or have been before,
To mingle with the Universe, and feel
What I can ne'er express, yet cannot all conceal.

~George Gordon, Lord Byron~


entmaiden
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Aug 27 2008, 11:42pm

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is not available. Professor Tolkien sold the movie rights to The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, but that is all. The Tolkien Estate is very vigilant in protecting its rights and at the present time will not allow anything from the Silmarillion to appear in the movies.

However, anything in the Prologues and the Appendices are fair game, so hopefully we'll see something from them. I sure hope so!

Each cloak was fastened about the neck with a brooch like a green leaf veined with silver.
`Are these magic cloaks?' asked Pippin, looking at them with wonder.
`I do not know what you mean by that,' answered the leader of the Elves.


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Lorien


Aug 28 2008, 6:54pm

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I'm currently reading it... [In reply to] Can't Post

and have been imaging that it would look amazing as a film. I don't think the Tolkien estate would sell the film rights now after what has happended with New Line. Pity.

Brian Blessed for Thorin!


Elros
Rivendell


Sep 4 2008, 12:54am

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I would love to see the Sil made into a movie, and I do think they could easily find a way to consistently follow the storyline, as opposed to some others. It would probably have to be 2 or 3 films, but the sad story of the Noldor would be fantastic!

Warning: I like sports and have only recently discovered the wonderful world Tolkien created. Please don't shoot me!


ringbearer9
Lorien


Sep 4 2008, 2:12am

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That would be amazing wouldn't it? By the way, welcome to TORn! Smile




almas_sparks
Rohan

Sep 8 2008, 2:13am

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I agree that history of Sauron would make for an amazing movies. They would have Mogoth in it, and Fall of Numenor and the Battle of Uncountable Tears and last but not the least amazingly hot and charismatic leading man in Sauron. Heart No,seriously, it`s such a great biography. I like individual stories too (Beren&Luthien,Turin Thurambar), and at least some characters can be incorporated, but when you read the book you see that it`s Sauron who binds all those individual stories together because they are part of his life more or less. And he`s the only major character who appears in all timelines wheather as Mogoth`s general or as the ruler himself. the guy is fascinating.he is scheming, he kicks butt, all they have to do is to expand some of briefly mentioned females (Turingwethil, Ar-Pharazon`s queen) into full-fledged love interest and they are good to go. When copywrights expire,of course. Cool

 
 

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