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Ugh… who feels like having a FLASH…

Grey Havens

Aug 5 2008, 1:51am

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Ugh… who feels like having a FLASH… Can't Post

… back on a Monday?

(I know just how you feel, dude.)

*yawn* Ah well… might as well get it over with…

Here's your FLASHBACK for...

July 27 to August 2


July 31
– Captain Thomas Kenneth Barnsley of the Coldstream Guards, known as the wise-cracking “Tea Cake” to the T.C.B.S., is killed in action near Ypres, Belgium, while consolidating a captured position. He is commemorated in the Hall of Memory built by his father, Sir John Barnsley, outside Baskerville House in Birmingham.


July 28 – Tolkien visits the London office of Allen & Unwin. He brings with him four completed illustrations (Rivendell, Bilbo Woke Up with the Early Sun in His Eyes, Bilbo Comes to the Huts of the Raft-elves, and Conversation with Smaug) for The Hobbit, which are approved and left to be sent to Houghton Mifflin.


July 29 – Eric Valentine Gordon, Tolkien’s friend, collaborator and successor to the chair of English Language at Leeds, dies in hospital at the age of forty-two.


July 31 – In a letter (#76) to his son, Christopher, Tolkien muses on the “Englishry” of Sam Gamgee and the other hobbits. “Had I thought it out at the beginning, I should have given all the hobbits very English names to match the shire. The Gaffer came first; and Gamgee followed as an echo of old Lamorna jokes.” (It was at Lamorna Cove in Cornwall, while on holiday in 1932, that Tolkien amused his children in giving the nickname “Gaffer Gamgee” to a local “character”, “an old man who used to go about swapping gossip and weather-wisdom and such like” (Letter #257).


July 31 – In response to a letter from Stanley Unwin, Tolkien mentions Rayner’s report on Book I of LOTR, specifically that the younger Unwin has discovered a weakness in the connection between LOTR and the original version of The Hobbit, namely Gollum’s offering of the One Ring to Bilbo as a gift.

Letter #109:

But I don’t feel worried by the discovery that the ring was more serious than appeared […] However, Gollum later becomes a prime character, and I do not rely on Gandalf to make his psychology intelligible. I hope it will come off, and Gandalf finally be revealed as perceptive rather than ‘hard put to it’. Still I must bear this in mind, when I revise chapter II for press: I intend, in any case, to shorten it. The proper way to negotiate the difficulty would be slightly to remodel the former story in its chapter V.

He goes on to list some of the people who have so far had the good fortune to have a peak at the unfinished LOTR: C.S. Lewis, Charles Williams, Christopher, “a solicitor (Owen Barfield), a doctor (Robert Emlyn Havard ?), an elderly army officer (Warren Hamilton Lewis), an elementary school-mistress (an American high school teacher named Dorothy, as suggested by Priscilla Tolkien, who visited the family during the war), an artist (Marjorie Incledon), and a farmer (as per Priscilla Tolkien “a pork farmer from Wiltshire, who was an occasional visitor to the Inklings and was known affectionately as Little Pig Robinson [after the character by Beatrix Potter]”).


August 1 – Tolkien writes to W.N. Beard, returning the proofs of The Hobbit and refers to the changes that were made to it and how they affect his current work on LOTR.

Letter #128:

It is now a long while since I sent in the proposed alteration of Chapter V, and tentatively suggested this slight remodeling of the original Hobbit. I was then still engaged in trying to fit on the sequel, which would have been a simpler task with the alteration, besides saving most of the chapter in that overlong work. […] The sequel now depends on the earlier version; and if the revision is really published, there must follow some considerable rewriting of the sequel.


July 29The Fellowship of the Ring is published.


July 31 – Rayner Unwin visits Tolkien and brings along the design made by Pauline Baynes for the slipcase for the deluxe set of LOTR. As Rayner later informs the artist, Tolkien “was enchanted and said you had exactly his eye for landscape and asked if, when we had finished using it for technical reproduction, he could have your original on permanent loan in his study” (University of Reading archive).

August 2 – When a group of boys at St. Marylebone Grammar School in London write expressing their wish to make a tape recording of all or most of LOTR, Tolkien forwards the letter to Rayner, expressing his dislike of the proposal and apprehension at having such tapes in existence and out of his/their control. (Letter #258)...

I wish that ‘Copyright’ could protect names, as well as extracts. It is a form of invention that I take a great deal of trouble over, and pleasure in; and really it is quite as difficult (often more so) as, say, lines of verse. I must say I was piqued by the ‘christening’ of that monstrous ‘hydrofoil’ Shadowfax* – without so much as ‘by your leave’ – to which several correspondents drew my attention (some with indignation). I am getting used to Rivendells, Lóriens, Imladris etc. as house-names – though maybe they are more frequent than the letters which say ‘by your leave’.

* (In 1964, an Aquastroll hydrofoil made a trial crossing from Calais to Dover. It had been christened Shadowfax.)


August 2 – Austin Olney, head of children's authors at Houghton Mifflin in Boston, writes to Tolkien, informing him that Ballantine Books, in an effort to hinder the publication of an unauthorized edition of The Hobbit, have produced their own paperback, albeit unrevised. He provides Tolkien with a copy of the cover art done by artist Barbara Remington.


July 28 – Edith Tolkien writes to Rayner Unwin with an update of her husband’s health (Tolkien had been feeling ill since the beginning of the month and had recently had X-rays done). The results of the tests were negative, which came as a big relief for the couple, who think it may have been a virus.

July 31 – In a letter to Christopher (#311), Tolkien, now back at work after his health scare, admits to feeling “a bit desperate: endlessly frustrated. […] Business – endless – lies neglected, yet I cannot get anything of my real work finished. Then came this last stroke of malice. I was assailed by very considerable pain, and depression, which no ordinary remedy would relieve. […] I feel quite well: i.e. as well as I did before the outset. But life is not easy. The Parke (the domestic help) has gone sick. Mummy is ailing, and I fear slowly ‘declining’. Also I feel very cut off.”


July 27 – Tolkien decides, as a gesture of remembrance of Edith, to donate the desk she had given him in 1927 (on which he wrote and illustrated The Hobbit and much of LOTR), to the Help The Aged charity. He provides a certificate of authenticity to go with the desk when it is sold at Sotheby’s.


July 28 – TORn contacts Wi Kuki regarding the rumor that he has been cast as Ghan-buri-Ghan, a chieftain in Lord of the Rings. His response? “First I've heard about it'.”

July 29 – Xoanan announces that Stuart Townsend has been cast as Aragorn.

July 30 – The Guardian Unlimited posts an interview with Peter Jackson in which he reveals the logic of filming three movies at the same time, that he does read fans’ comments (sometimes spending hours and hours on fan sites), who doesn’t make it in to the movies (Tom Bombadil), who does (Treebeard) and names a few of the actors who will be taking on the roles of Frodo, Sam and Gimli (Timothy Spall ?!), how he’ll tackle the “little people” aspect (i.e. hobbits & dwarves) by not necessarily using “little people”, the problems of making the LOTR believable so that established fans and newbies alike will be drawn to the trilogy, and why New Zealand is Middle-earth. “It's a once in a lifetime experience, and if we do it and we can be proud, then we want to retire when it's all over.”

--> A tongue-in-cheek spy report claims that Leonardo di Caprio will play a part in the LOTR films, but his part is not yet known.


July 31 – In a TV interview, Mark Ferguson reveals that he will be playing the role of Gil-Galad in FOTR.


July 27 – In a mini-interview with UK newspaper “Metro”, Andy Serkis talks about what playing the role of Gollum entails and what Andy’s own addiction is.

July 29 – Pictures emerge of the Edoras set.

July 31 – Dark Horizons reveals a LOTR promo collage of an orc, Saruman and some Ringwraiths…

August 1 – The LOTR stunt crew give a shout-out to TORn and offer up a few tidbits on their stunt work on LOTR and a little snapshot of themselves.

-- > The July edition of Sci Fi News has the first images of the Brazilian version of two LOTR posters.

August 2 – Peter Jackson goes all Chainsaw-Massacre-y (not really) to kick-start the refurbishment of Wellington’s New Embassy Theatre, which will be the host of the New Zealand premiere of the LOTR trilogy.


July 26 – Gamespy.com has the latest comic from “Force Monkeys” with a LOTR flavor.

July 28 – Sir Ian McKellen’s latest E-post reveals some LOTR secrets, such as, yes, Sir Ian is in fact naked in TTT Unsure, what his staffs were made of and what Gandalf says to the moth atop Orthanc.


July 31 – In his latest E-post, Sir Ian McKellen discusses Gandalf’s ring, his winking, New Zealand’s “wildness”, and his fondness for Hobbiton.

--> Yanick (DUSSO) Dusseault’s matte paintings for LOTR are posted on his website.

August 2 – In an interview with Stuff.co.nz, Peter Jackson crypticially remarks that he has hopes to bring Tolkien’s The Hobbit to the big screen, but that “the film rights are tied up in a ‘complex’ arrangement involving a rival Hollywood studio.”


July 27 – Sir Ian McKellen again responds to readers’ questions in his latest E-post. He tackles such issues as his absence from the TTT Extended Edition, the farewell scene in ROTK, learning to speak Elvish, and his doodles.

July 29The Fellowship of the Ring turns 50! TORn offers its congratulations (along with a TOP 50 list by MrCere and a TOP 50 list of important people in the Tolkien universe) and the BBC digs up some reviews from that time.

All info has been collected from Hammond & Scull's "J.R.R. Tolkien Companion & Guide"; "The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien", "Tolkien & The Great War", TORn and various sites on the web.


Aug 5 2008, 2:33am

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Excellent! When do you find the time to sleep? // [In reply to] Can't Post


Fear is a bad habit. Despair is lazy. Evil is boring.
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Aug 5 2008, 3:06am

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wow, how did I miss those matte paintings? [In reply to] Can't Post

Those are beautiful! Thanks for including that link!

I wasn't here for the Stuart Townsend casting and uncasting, so it was interesting to go back and read the stories posted at that time, too. The message boards probably ate that up!


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Aug 5 2008, 12:10pm

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There was such loss [In reply to] Can't Post

in Tolkien's life - friends in the Great War, the completely unexpected death of Gordon...

That's some delightful artwork there, both Tolkien's and the matte paintings! And don't you just love those pink bulbous thingies and emus on the Ballantine Hobbit cover? Tongue

Thank you, diedye, for someone who is supposedly half asleep you're doing a great job!

"I desired dragons with a profound desire"

"It struck me last night that you might write a fearfully good romantic drama, with as much of the 'supernatural' as you cared to introduce. Have you ever thought of it?"
-Geoffrey B. Smith, letter to JRR Tolkien, 1915


Aug 5 2008, 12:39pm

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Once again, you have blown me away [In reply to] Can't Post

with your hard work and absolutely fantastic compilation of DELIGHTFUL insights! Thank you SO MUCH!

When I was looking at Pauline Baynes' LotR bookcover, I was reminded of the set design for the LotR musical/play that's just finished running. They used the branches as a framework.

Those matte paintings are just gorgeous and are so paramount in achieving some of the most ethereal moments of the films.

Gad I love these posts, diedye! You've found your calling, fersher!

*warm hug*


"Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."

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Peredhil lover

Aug 5 2008, 3:31pm

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Another great post! [In reply to] Can't Post

You found again so many details that made for a very interesting read. And a few laughs, too - particularly Xoanon's way to announce Stuart Townsend as Aragorn and the rumour about the casting of Leonardo DiCaprio *snicker*

And the pictures were great, too - have a few new ones on my computer now :)

Thank you so much for the time you put into this! Do you get any free time any longer with all the searching for these posts? Wink

I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.

(This post was edited by Peredhil lover on Aug 5 2008, 3:32pm)


Aug 5 2008, 7:34pm

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Fan-Tastic! [In reply to] Can't Post

I am so enjoying these flashbacks!
Thankyou for all the work diedye!
One of my favourite things on TORN! Heart

Elven x

Were off to Hobbiton finally!

Tolkien was a Capricorn!!
Russell Crowe for Beorn!!


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