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JRandomRohirrim
Nargothrond


Mar 23 2007, 9:43am

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And the poll is:

What's the greatest book-to-movie adaptation of all time?

And the link is here:


The results won't be announced until April 2.

(Edited by Altaira: the url was so loooooong it was stretching the whole thread way to the right in flat mode for Firefox users)

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(This post was edited by Altaira on Mar 23 2007, 7:27pm)


Advising Elf
Nargothrond


Mar 23 2007, 1:59pm

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It's the only movie I've ever seen that changed nothing sustantial from the book. I saw the movie first, then read the book, and the only differences were:
  1. In the movie, one of the characters was female instead of male, but it made no difference at all.
  2. The movie left out one of the technical aspects of the effects of the organism on the human body.
  3. The movie had the scientists discover that the intent of the facility was biological warfare, whereas they knew that already in the book.

Not asked for, but as far as the *worst* adaptation "Logan's Run" springs to mind.

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grammaboodawg
Elvenhome


Mar 23 2007, 2:01pm

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grammaboodawg
Elvenhome


Mar 23 2007, 2:03pm

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That is an awesome movie! [In reply to] Can't Post

I haven't read it... but I think the scientists finding out the facility was intended for warfare as in the film was a change that added to the story.


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Wynnie
Nargothrond


Mar 23 2007, 2:18pm

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For me it was a toss-up [In reply to] Can't Post

between A Room with a View and Sense and Sensibility. I like adaptations to be as book-faithful as possible, and I was very satisfied with those two on that count.


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Annael
Elvenhome


Mar 23 2007, 2:49pm

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for me it was [In reply to] Can't Post

The English Patient and To Kill a Mockingbird. Faithfulness to the word counts less for me than faithfulness to the spirit of the work, and those two brought out all the beauty and meaning in the books and perhaps even more.

But since we can vote as often as we want, I'll put in a vote for LOTR too Laugh

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Owlyross
Nargothrond


Mar 23 2007, 2:51pm

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Oh well [In reply to] Can't Post

The Shining... Turning a piece of pulpy horror writing into a tense masterpiece of terror and the supernatural.

Or one that's not one there. Jaws. Turning a book which is quite frankly **** into a modern masterpiece and one of the most entertaining films of all time.

Note... Neither of them stick to the book exactly (in some places making stuff up and diverting to the benefit of the film) and are better for it, because for the most part, a book doesn't fit the conventions of the screen and vice versa... Really, how many good film-to-book adaptations have you read? And you're surprised there's not more good book adaptations?!

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Morwen
Nargothrond


Mar 23 2007, 2:56pm

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I remember feeling like I could see the movie in my head while I read it. Nothing really needed to be changed.

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Wynnie
Nargothrond


Mar 23 2007, 3:17pm

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was a close third, for me. I can't judge The English Patient for faithfulness, since I never read the book; I did love the film. And yes, capturing the spirit and beauty and meaning is very important; the two I chose exceeded expectations in that regard too.

Didn't realize multiple votes were possible; I'll have to go back!



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Advising Elf
Nargothrond


Mar 23 2007, 3:44pm

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The fact that it was bad thing needed more emphasis. [In reply to] Can't Post

The fact that it's a dangerous thing to mess around with is implicit in the book.

Of course, being prepared to defend against it is a different thing than planning or it's use, but I wonder if effective defenses could be devised without messing sround with possible weapons? What a messy business.

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Advising Elf
Nargothrond


Mar 23 2007, 3:46pm

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Tied for first with me. [In reply to] Can't Post

Jurassic Park might even have edged it out for first. Considering I've read it more times, that's probably the case.

*makes note to look for AS and read it again*

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JRandomRohirrim
Nargothrond


Mar 23 2007, 3:47pm

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I really love To Kill a Mockingbird (the book as well as the movie - the adaptation is brilliant). It's also another example of perfect casting.

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N.E. Brigand
Gondolin


Mar 23 2007, 4:25pm

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"If it's worth doing, it can't be done. If it can be done, it's not worth doing." [In reply to] Can't Post

A stricture on adaptations postulated in the late 1950s by the film and theater critic, John Simon. (Occasionally refered to as Simon's law.) The idea being that the genius of a great work is inherent in its form. Which hasn't stopped Simon from praising films adapted from good novels.

I voted for Howards End (1992), whose film version Simon panned. It was one of my two or three favorite films that year (along with The Crying Game and Un Coeur en hiver, neither an adaptation) but I only read the novel a few months ago. Yes the novel is both subtler and a bit harsher on the "good" characters, but I still find the film remarkable.

Interesting list. Stanley Kauffmann's review of John Huston's The Dead (1987) discusses the limitations of film adaptation at some length. He points out that Joyce at one point has someone "literally bowled over" -- Kauffmann pointed out that there's no filmic way to convey Joyce's "literally".

The one and only film class I ever took was on "Film and Literature", taught by Tony Macklin, who edited the journal Film Heritage in the late 1960s. The class was subsumed in the English department; there was no film department at the University of Dayton. (A couple years later, the alumni magazine carried a short story about Macklin teaching a film course that lacked a literary correlation: a survey of Clint Eastwood's flims. In response, someone wrote an angry letter to the editor about how such pop culture excursions were inappropriate in an academic setting.) We read/watched Don Quixote (1957 Russian film), Fahrenheit 451, The Graduate, 2001: A Space Odyssey, and The Silence of the Lambs. I remember several students identifying the last one as a clear improvement on the book.

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Darkstone
Elvenhome


Mar 23 2007, 5:09pm

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Where’s:

Breakfast at Tiffany's
Doctor Zhivago
Orlando
American Psycho
Lawrence of Arabia
Dracula (1931)
Frankenstein (1931)
Schindler's List
Wizard of Oz
Butterfield 8
Planet of the Apes (1968)
Grapes of Wrath
Of Mice and Men
The Old Man and the Sea
and....ah, well....

I’m tempted to say The Last Time I Saw Paris, but since they left that one out too, I’ll go with LOTR.

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GaladrielTX
Dor-Lomin


Mar 23 2007, 5:57pm

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Maybe they weren't very good adaptations? [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm sure Lawrence of Arabia departed from the source material to a great degree because the movie is one of my favorites, but I couldn't get past the first few pages of the book. *snore*

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Patty
Elvenhome


Mar 23 2007, 6:05pm

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I'm willing to bet this is a great adaptation. Due to the constant time (and gender) shifts, it must have been the very devil to adapt.

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Morwen
Nargothrond


Mar 23 2007, 6:20pm

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Also very good [In reply to] Can't Post

I suspect that Chrichton writes his books with the expectation that they will be made into movies and structures them accordingly.

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Advising Elf
Nargothrond


Mar 23 2007, 6:42pm

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The first CGI was in a Crichton movie. [In reply to] Can't Post

In Westworld, when Richard Benjamin throws the acid into Yul Brenner's face, his eyesight goes weird and pixelated.

Here's a link to the story about it: http://www.michaelcrichton.com/westworld/index.html

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Morwen
Nargothrond


Mar 23 2007, 7:15pm

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I've never seen Westworld. I'll have to stick it on my Netflix list.

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namadriel
Menegroth


Mar 23 2007, 7:37pm

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I had to go with... [In reply to] Can't Post

The Princess Bride. The movie and book are both amazing! And they managed to capture the sarcastic tone of the book in the movie.

I also think The Green Mile is one of the best book-to-movie adaptations I've ever seen.


Idril Celebrindal
Dor-Lomin


Mar 24 2007, 12:50am

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Not to mention ... [In reply to] Can't Post

Emma
The Godfather
Ben Hur (1959)
Spartacus
The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
The African Queen
Being There
The Harry Potter movies
The Shining
Carrie
Blade Runner
All Quiet on the Western Front (1932)

I could go on and on ....

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N.E. Brigand
Gondolin


Mar 24 2007, 1:43am

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is on amazon's poll.

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Finding Frodo
Dor-Lomin


Mar 24 2007, 2:15am

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Better than the book [In reply to] Can't Post

Under the Amazon poll there was also a list of movies that were considered better than the books they were based on. I didn't click on it but there was a picture of Jaws by it. I would also nominate 'The Firm" in that category if it isn't already there.

Where's Frodo?


Finding Frodo
Dor-Lomin


Mar 24 2007, 2:19am

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Hey, how about best movie novelization? [In reply to] Can't Post

We found my husband's paperback copy of The Karate Kid in a box that was in his parents' garage. My copy of E.T., the Extraterrestriel is around somewhere too. They are hilarious. I also just remembered doing a book report on Close Encounters of the Third Kind when I was in jr. high. Great literature, eh? Well, I liked it at the time.

Where's Frodo?


diedye
Hithlum


Mar 24 2007, 3:53am

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As much as I love LOTR, I had to pick To Kill A Mockingbird... [In reply to] Can't Post

The acting was superb and the movie stayed quite true to the book.


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