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Magpie
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Jul 6 2008, 7:14pm
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Update on Doug Adams' LOTR soundtrack book
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Doug has just returned from meeting with the publisher of his upcoming book, The Music of the Lord of the Rings Movies. The status to date is (with everything still subject to change):
- The finished book length looks to be 200 pages or fewer.
- Multimedia content will likely be offered on one double sided DVD
- They're exploring the concept of a 'regular' and 'deluxe' version of the book
- Things are on schedule for a fourth quarter, 2008 release
He also published an updated sneak peek at his mockup of the entire book.
You can click HERE for a larger version of that image but it won't let you 'read' the book. Just get a sense of the different sections. Doug wrote:
What you're looking at is the complete book in its mock-up layout... which means it's my own visual assembly, and hasn't yet been pushed to the publisher's art department. Like the liners, the form is pretty essential to the function, so I lay everything out for clarity's sake, even though I know it'll shift down the line. I still have a good number of graphics to insert and, as I say, plenty to text tweaking to do. And of course, those who assemble the actual layout will have a much more artful take on things. and
Remember that everything you see (if you can see at all!) is a mock-up. For those trying to ascertain page counts, etc... *way* too early! I suspect the final layout will be tweaked considerably so nothing you see here should be taken as a final version.
In case you're wondering what that mock up looks like enlarged, here you go:
That's actually from a previous version Doug offered. Here's the updated version posted yesterday:
Read the blog entry
Doug's FAQ page regarding the book
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ArathornJax
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Jul 6 2008, 8:56pm
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forward to the release of this book and will buy the deluxe edition (why bother offering both, just make it a deluxe edition). So many wonderful items and I am really looking forward to the double sided DVD.
" . . . (we are ) too engrossed in thinking of everything as a preparation or training or making one fit -- for what? At any minute it is what we are and are doing, not what we plan to be and do that counts."
J.R.R. Tolkien in his 6 October 1940 letter to his son Michael Tolkien.
Come over to the LOTR Movie Thread and discuss the 1981 BBC Adaptation of the LOTR.
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grammaboodawg
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Jul 7 2008, 12:15am
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every step... we get closer and closer. The anticipation must be making him crazy sometimes ;) *twitch* I can't WAIT! Deluxe edition? COOL!
"Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."
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Doug Adams
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Jul 7 2008, 5:27am
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The anticipation must be making him crazy sometimes ;)
You'd better believe it!
-Doug
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Laerasëa
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Jul 7 2008, 6:06am
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I'm so excited for this one! (and have been so for a while!)
*deluxe* edition...
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I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying. - Oscar Wilde
This is a work of fiction. All the characters in it, human and otherwise, are imaginary, excepting only certain of the fairy folk, whom it might be unwise to offend by casting doubts on their existence. Or lack thereof. -Neil Gaiman
Age is an issue of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter. - Mark Twain
You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway. - Walt Disney
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils. - Louis Hector Berlioz
Don't use words too big for the subject. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. -C.S. Lewis
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Kelvarhin
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Jul 7 2008, 6:52am
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might have to start dropping very big hints to Mr Kel about my Christmas present. Something along the lines of dropping a printout of your post might work.
Thanks Magpie.
*hugs* Kel x
Valinor, O Valinor
Andavë yányë hyarya
Tumna yá nyèna minya fëa
An Valinor, lissë Eldamar
Kelvarhin's Universe
In the land of TORnadoes...where the brilliant play (with thanks to grammaboodawg :) )
Is TORn...Is Good
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grammaboodawg
Elvenhome
Jul 7 2008, 9:16am
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What a ride! I can't WAIT to finally have your celebration of the films/music right here in my hands! :D I'm SO GLAD you've hung in there and done it right! THANK YOU!
"Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."
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FantasyFan
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Jul 7 2008, 11:59am
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I've been looking forward to this book ever since I saw the first bits of it in Chicago in October of 2004. It's so exciting that the time is getting closer!
(And I'd go for a delux edition as well).
"That is one thing that Men call 'hope.' Amdir we call it, 'looking up.' But there is another which is founded deeper. Estel we call it, that is 'trust.' It is not defeated by the ways of the world, for it does not come from experience, but from our nature and First Being. If we are indeed the Eruhin, the Children of the One, then He will not suffer Himself to be deprived of His own, not by any enemy, not even by ourselves. This is the last foundation of estel, which we keep even when we contemplate the End. Of all His designs the issue must be for His children's joy."
Finrod, Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth, HoME X Morgoth's Ring
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Magpie
Elvenhome
Jul 7 2008, 12:52pm
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welcome to TORn
You know, a long time ago I suggested that one area you might want to cover in your book was the fan reaction to the soundtrack. Why such devotion? Why does it matter so much to so many people? And what influence did the LOTR soundtrack - both musically and in terms of fan reaction - have on following soundtrack projects?
I'm curious if you branched out into any of these territories.
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Laerasëa
Dor-Lomin
Jul 7 2008, 4:57pm
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Hello!! *waves* I didn't even see you when I first replied! Nice to hear from you!
thanks!
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I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying. - Oscar Wilde
This is a work of fiction. All the characters in it, human and otherwise, are imaginary, excepting only certain of the fairy folk, whom it might be unwise to offend by casting doubts on their existence. Or lack thereof. -Neil Gaiman
Age is an issue of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter. - Mark Twain
You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway. - Walt Disney
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils. - Louis Hector Berlioz
Don't use words too big for the subject. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. -C.S. Lewis
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Aerin
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Jul 7 2008, 8:55pm
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for your writings on this wonderful music! I'm really looking forward to the book.
BTW, I recently met someone who doesn't care much about the movies themselves, or Tolkien, but is a huge fan of Howard Shore's score. It's definitely got a life of its own.
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Doug Adams
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Jul 8 2008, 2:10am
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Hi everyone, and thanks so much for the warm welcome. Hopefully I'll have more time to post once various ends of this production are put to bed, but I'll do my best to pop in from time to time in the interim. I am sometimes amazed at just how long it has taken to bring this book into reality, but there's never been a day where I was sorry for signing on! And I do have to laugh... just about the time this one is hitting shelves, it'll be time to gear up for The Hobbit...
I guess there are worse problems to have! :)
Magpie, some of the material you mention will be discussed, if perhaps a bit obliquely. It's always difficult to put a fine bead on a true phenomenon. I suspect there's some contributory common ground between the work itself and the kismet of a primed and receptive audience. Complicating matters, it's all tremendously subjective--does Shore's music satisfy the Tolkien nut the same as it satisfies the film score lover? I've been fortunate enough to meet people around the world who love this music dearly, and it seems they all love it for very personal and very different reasons.
However, there's more objective ground to be covered if we discuss just what makes this such an incredibly unique project. How exactly did Shore treat this adaptation? How does this fit into the history of literary adaptations, mythological themes, dramatic/musical tendencies of the Twenty-first Century? Though the answers to these questions won't directly address the personal issue of "why" this music is beloved, I hope they will at least highlight many pathways.
-Doug
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entmaiden
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Jul 8 2008, 3:21am
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I'll probably just have to get both!
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I've been looking forward to this book since Doug hosted a pre-symphony get-together in Chicago, and then he teased us with some of the pages at the next ORC in Los Angeles.
Each cloak was fastened about the neck with a brooch like a green leaf veined with silver.
`Are these magic cloaks?' asked Pippin, looking at them with wonder.
`I do not know what you mean by that,' answered the leader of the Elves.
NARF since 1974.
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Aerin
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Jul 8 2008, 5:49am
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"I suspect there's some contributory common ground between the work itself and the kismet of a primed and receptive audience. Complicating matters, it's all tremendously subjective--does Shore's music satisfy the Tolkien nut the same as it satisfies the film score lover?"
Yes, there's definitely a primed and receptive audience of book-lovers who completely appreciate what Shore has done, but the score also is hugely satisfying to those with no prior experience of Tolkien -- or even the movies! I love that he compared his efforts to composing an opera (well, I'm a huge opera fan, as well) -- the way in which he used and developed his motives is incredibly sophisticated. I did a presentation on his score for FOTR for a (very serious) music club, playing audio clips of some of the main themes and then video clips showing how the themes were used in context. This group of totally non-movie-fan listeners, most of whom were totally unfamiliar with the books, was totally blown away.
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grammaboodawg
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Jul 8 2008, 4:46pm
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my biggest problem is that the music has become so emotional for me to listen to, it's like watching the films. I can't listen to it at work any more as I'm brought to tears through so much of it. Not just because of how well it captures the magic of the films, but also because it's so incredibly beautiful and stirring in its own right.
Without Shore's music, the films would have been diminished, imho. I'm thrilled to have something new and so strongly connected to these films coming to us now. So fate is taking care of us in having your book arrive precisely when it was meant to, but it's regrettable that the making of it has been such a long [albeit loving] journey for you. *bows deeply* Many heartfelt thanks for keeping the magic alive!
"Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."
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Jul 8 2008, 7:32pm
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There are a lot of music fans here so I think you'll find the discussions very enjoyable. Welcome! :)
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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Sunflower
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Jul 9 2008, 7:41am
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I'd suspect that Shore's score for LOTR is among the most popular and widely loved/admired/respected film scores among the general public (and some few of the crtics) of the past half-century. Or if not exactly now, than it is on its way to becoming so. I'd rank it right up there in terms of popularity with "Dr.Zhivago", "Mary Poppins", "Star Wars", etc. IMO, it has not yet approached the universal popularity and/or cultural influence of "Oklahoma!" or "The Sound Of Music" but that's only because of the film's genre. The Symphony will go a long way towards cementing its place in score history and one day, the LOTR score WILL reach those hallowed highs.
I am most eagerly looking forward to your book! IMO it's the best present other than a ticket to The Symphony itself...which I one day hope to see. Best of luck and yes, in light of future events, I am, as you say, "adjusting my dreams accordingly"!
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Doug Adams
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Jul 11 2008, 4:43am
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The book is now officially moving into the proofreading stage: http://themusicofthelordoftheringsfilms.blogspot.com/2008/07/97809.html
We're getting closer every day!
-Doug
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Earl
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Jul 17 2008, 7:00am
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I didn't know you were on TORn. Nice to see you here 
Crows and Gibbets! What is The House Of Eorl but a thatched barn where brigands drink in the reek, and their brats roll around on the floor with their dogs! You are but a lesser son of greater Sires.
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Wheeee...
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