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greendragon
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May 29 2008, 7:51pm
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total Hogwarts, did you say? //
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'There are older and fouler things than orcs in the deep places of my fridge...'
'You never know what will happen next, when once you get mixed up with TORnsibs and their friends.'
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Nienna
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May 29 2008, 7:51pm
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Well that news has been a poor start to my day.
Jack Black and Daniel Radcliffe - please, no way!
James McAvoy - while he would my choice of the three, I've seen him in too many movies lately - I'd be thinking "Oh look at McAvoy playing Bilbo".
I want someone like Sir Ian - with him it was "Oh look at Bilbo"!
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FrodoEyes
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May 29 2008, 7:55pm
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I wouldn't worry, this IS the Daily Express we're talking about!and no middle aged hobbit. If it's true that Radcliffe is being considered, I dare to ask, what the heck are PJ and GDT thinking?  I'd like to think PJ and GDT can't have seriously considered him for this part... they must've made some passing remark that's been taken out of context (since any Hobbit news is big news these days). I can't wait for Friday's issue of Empire magazine to see what else the interview with GDT reveals. |
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Nienna
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May 29 2008, 7:58pm
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Thanks for your reassurance. It stopped me sobbing into my weetbix!
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nimthiriel
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May 29 2008, 8:01pm
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I would love to hear Sir Ian's voice in the movie.
Put Sir Ian Holm as narrator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We must have him some way or another:)
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xy
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May 29 2008, 8:01pm
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I doubt Jack Black is a serious consideration, and Daniel Radcliffe is way to busy with the Potter movies until 2011.
Ideally I'd say bring back Ian Holm ("you haven't aged a day" ) but if for any reason he can't I won't mind a younger actor either (as long as he will have a physical similarity to Holm, since they both play the same character). It's good that PJ and GDT had the same idea for the actor and hopefully it's as perfect as Ian McKellen was for Gandalf - and it had better be a better Bilbo than Elijah Wood's Frodo.
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sabastian
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May 29 2008, 8:03pm
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Senor Del Toro
Yo entiendo que deces pero favor de pensar bien de Ian Holm. El debes de ser Bilbo. Tu sabes que el charecter solamente tienes 51 anos el empezar de El Hobbit. No se si el estas enfermo y no lo puedes ser---esto lo comprendo. Pero si no...darle lo que queras! Imaginate Gandalf sin el otro Ian. Esto es lo mismo.
Gracias para oir mi voz.
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Kangi Ska
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May 29 2008, 8:07pm
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Bilbo was 50 in the Hobbit. Frodo was 50 in Fellowship of the Rings. Much of this discussion is a moot point.
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tattooed_dwarf
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May 29 2008, 8:14pm
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Martin freeman would be mine number one choice too. But if they end up casting McAvoy, i won't mind, he's great actor.
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nimthiriel
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May 29 2008, 8:19pm
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I agree with Freeman as the most Hobbit/Bilbo like face and McAvoy being a great actor.
But we have time!!! Can't we come up with more and great actors?
We don't make desitions but surely we have a voice...Don't we??
even if we don't...it's fun and this is the time to speculate and be picky 
Ha! so, let's get on with it and have fun!!!!
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Nerwen Altáriel
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May 29 2008, 8:20pm
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A minutes ago he already said that nothing is closed about the cast and they will do it after finish the script, so calm down fellows!
And one more thing: Ian Holm can't do the entire movie!!!!! please, understand that!!
We have to be confident. PJ (and team) have picked the right Merry, Pippin, Sam (and Bilbo) so it can be done again with the young Bilbo, I mean, we didn't know anything about Sean Austin (for instance) until we saw him in LOTR, the same thing could happen here, as someone already said, the world is full of good (and unknown) actors who can play Bilbo, let them (PJ, GdT an team) find him.
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Eledhwen
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May 29 2008, 8:22pm
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Who needs random unknown sources when there's the TORN messageboards anyway? Thanks!
Figwit Still Lives!/
Calling for a Figwit cameo in The Hobbit since May 2008
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merklynn
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May 29 2008, 8:41pm
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Why do people even think Ian Holm could do it?
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This is exactly right. Its time to move on. Not only does it make no sense that Ian Holm could play Bilbo for the majority of the film, but PJ and GDT have outright said it is going to be someone else and Holm will be used in some other way. It seems a pretty fair assumption that Holm will or may be narrating the opening and closing of the film.
My wife is one of the "only Ian Holm can be Bilbo" people. The one thing that puzzles me is why people think Ian Holm could play a nearly 30 year younger version of himself. There are no believable make up or visual FX for this currently and even what is out there (like the horrible younger Magneto in X-Men 3) are unconvincing and expensive. Doing that for a whole movie to the lead actor is simply ridiculous and not going to happen.
The key here is that Ian Holm already looked old even in the prologue which was filmed 9 years ago! Why then will he be able to play Bilbo in The Hobbit now that he is 76 years old (9 years older than when he first donned the youthing makeup). Personally I think he looked weird with dark hair and wrinkles. Imagine how he would look now. Ridiculous and unconvincing.
I just find it bizarre that anyone can seriously think Ian Holm can play the younger Bilbo at this stage. I wish he could, I really do, but reality sucks sometimes.
I do think McAvoy would do well as Bilbo, but since GDT has already dispelled what is nothing but another ridiculous rumor from British tabloids (worst papers in the world) I think there is still hope for the relatively unknown Martin Freeman to bring his quiet charm to the role of Bilbo. :-D
Otherwise, I hope GDT surprises us with an inspired choice.
BTW: I think GDT is casting Ron Perlman for Beorn, not Thorin as suggested on tORNs main page. Perlman's role as the Beast in Beauty and the Beast, and also GDTs mentioning of his interest in the shape changing character seem like an obvious connection, more so than Thorin. Beorn just seems more like Perlman's sort of character.
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Guillermo
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May 29 2008, 8:44pm
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When its a fact- You'll hear it from me first- and, very likely, right here.
Bilbo is an incredibly dificult and taxing part to cast, physically exhausting- appearing in every scene of the HOBBIT film and a large portion of the second and exposed to elements, brutal travelling, inclement scheduling, etc, etc There's no two ways about it-
Keep that in mind.
Yr Obt Svt
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Compa_Mighty
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May 29 2008, 8:46pm
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Remember just a year ago we would have a Sam Raimi Hobbit without Jackson's involvement whatsoever, and Bob Shaye in charge of the movie?
Need I say more?
Radcliffe is a no no, I assure you... you can't have a Potter be a Baggins, as a Gandalf was wise enough not to become a Dumbledore.
Jack Black? That has been said before, and dates back to a 2005 King Kong interview where Jack Black says Peter Jackson told him (late at night after bar night), that he would be Bilbo. It appered in Empire, Vanity Fair or one of those big magazines.
McAvoy I can see. He looks like a Hobbit. And we know he would appear in fantasy... he has also been mentioned since day minus 3. Even though he is another Mr. Darcy, and I believe someone (sorry, don't recall who) here says it would be weird to see Mr. Darcy (Colin Firth) as Mr. Baggins.
Martin Freeman has troubles telling a hobbit apart from a troll... http://moviesblog.mtv.com/...-ride-to-the-hobbit/ but that can be fixed.
Come on! Del Toro comes out and says they have someone in mind and the next day the name comes out... I don't think so.
Ah! The days of a Raimi-Shaye SpiderHobbit with an entirely new cast, since everyone would remain absolutely loyal to the shunned Jackson...!
I believe we should wait the year Guillermo said we would need to wait. 
Here's to Del Toro becoming the Irvin Kershner of Middle Earth!
Essay winner of the Show us your Hobbit Pride Giveway!
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MrCere
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May 29 2008, 8:47pm
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Personally, I don't believe it at all
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I think this is an unsubstantiated rumor started by an agent or an internet hit seeker.
PERHAPS the studio was thinking about one of these names (Warners does like Potter) but I don't for a second think this is the short list for Bilbo.
I have no choice but to believe in free will.
The cake is a lie
The cake is a lie
The cake is a lie
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nimthiriel
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May 29 2008, 8:48pm
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I totally agree with that!
It's amazing how some actors are just made for the part, even though Pearlman
is Hellboy, he's also Beast, and so many more! (remember him as a russian spy? which movie was it?)
But I can picture him as Beorn as well, and a very good one.
Maybe he's the kind of actor that dissapears behind the character to make it alive...
Who can do that with Bilbo's character?
that's the one GDT must find!!!!
(sans the makeup of course)
Can't believe Hobbits are back!!
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nimthiriel
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May 29 2008, 8:52pm
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OK!!!
you're back!!! welcome!!!!
thanks for clearing that out!!!!
We were just talking about moving on and looking ahead to the future Bilbo!!
it's an honor to have you in our forum!!!
keep up the good Hobbit Film work
Can't believe Hobbits are back!!
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Lunamoth
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May 29 2008, 9:00pm
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Spider Hobbit: your moment of Zen
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Ah! The days of a Raimi-Shaye SpiderHobbit with an entirely new cast, since everyone would remain absolutely loyal to the shunned Jackson...! Spider Hobbit
Spider Hobbit
Does whatever a Spider Hobbit does
Can he swing from a web?
No he can't, he's a Hobbit
Look ouuuuuuut, here comes the Spider Hobbit
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Patty
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May 29 2008, 9:07pm
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Love your footer there, Eledhwen.
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Hanging out with the Lonely Isle elves.
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FarFromHome
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May 29 2008, 9:08pm
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Bilbo is an incredibly dificult and taxing part to cast, physically exhausting
I guess we haven't been taking into account how demanding this part is. Up at 4 am every day to have hobbit feet put on, walking miles in essentially bare feet on rough terrain, or even in the snow. We heard all about it from the LotR hobbits, and there were four of them to share the load!
I guess there's more to playing a hobbit than meets the eye...
...and the sails were drawn up, and the wind blew,
and slowly the ship slipped away down the long grey firth;
and the light of the glass of Galadriel that Frodo bore
glimmered and was lost.
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Notallwhowanderarelost
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May 29 2008, 9:08pm
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My first knee-jerk re-action at the mention of Jack Black was "No! Stab myself in eye'. But then, considering that's not a good idea...I thought about it. I like Jack Black. TBC down page....
James McAvoy is just as pretty as Elijah Wood and if they are going for a pretty Bilbo then let's just go with Reliable Elijah again. James could play another role I'm sure. But since he and Elijah are almost identical in looks I say Elijah deserves the role.
Dan Rad. Just ...no.
SO back to Jack Black.
When I think of Bilbo I think of a Hobbit who is very physical, in spite of just wanting to loaf around and have tea in the first chapter. Bilbo is adventurous and witty, a quick-thinking hobbit always with a snappy come-back and a fine riddle-master. And those things DO sound a LOT like Jack Black! Until this second I never even considered Jack but now...yeah! Jack CAN actually act when he feels like it and I really think he could do this. I COULD sit through six plus hours of watching him as Bilbo..easily. Jack is very entertaining.
So IF they pick Jack then Peej and GDT have GOT to have Elijah back as Frodo in the bridge story. That is if they are going to make me happy.
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Notallwhowanderarelost
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May 29 2008, 9:21pm
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Oops! Sorry for the double post. I missed your new message up there, GDT!
All right! I love how you are keeping right up with what we are all blithering about over here! 
We humbly await YOUR final word on the casting.
This place is SO cool! 
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Artanis
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May 29 2008, 9:51pm
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very impressed that GDT would take the time to post something here. It certainly didn't sit right to have had that chat night just last week with him and PJ, and then for a week later to be getting a different story from the "media" . It would have lowered my opinion immensely to be treated like a bunch of teens being told one thing one week and something else another.................even if we do act like teens with all this "blithering" as the previous poster put!!!!
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Waiting for PJ and GDT
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