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Is This Just A Coincidence, Or....

DwellerInDale
Rohan


May 18, 2:12pm

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Is This Just A Coincidence, Or.... Can't Post

In the trailer and featurette, Galadriel and her party appear to have an encounter with the barrow-wights. Later in the featurette, the party is seen riding toward an A-frame house with leaded windows:




The image below was taken from the LOTRO-Wiki site:




...and this is the site's picture of Tom Bombadil's house. Coincidence or...?

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Ardamírë
Valinor


May 18, 4:59pm

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I hope it’s Tom’s house [In reply to] Can't Post

Not only do I want to see Tom and Goldberry, but there was that spy report on TORN’s homepage a while back about them being in the show. So it’s definitely possible!

"Behold! the hope of Elvenland,
the fire of Fëanor, Light of Morn
before the sun and moon were born,
thus out of bondage came at last,
from iron to mortal hand it passed."
-The Lay of Leithian


AshNazg
Grey Havens


May 18, 6:18pm

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isn't tom bombadil confirmed? [In reply to] Can't Post

i'm quite confident we'll see him, and goldBerry


Ataahua
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May 18, 9:46pm

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Interesting! [In reply to] Can't Post

If he is in the show, I hope they don't deaden his character to match the vibe of the show so far. The story needs some lightness (just as Shakespeare added a fool to his tragedies).

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

May 18, 10:38pm

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Not confirmed [In reply to] Can't Post

That was among the rumors that Fellowship of the Fans later said Amazon was purposefully spreading as false information. So while it may be true, I wouldn't count on it.

See Amazon Releasing and Spreading False ROP Rumors

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


AshNazg
Grey Havens


May 19, 1:07pm

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It'll be amusing to see what's true... [In reply to] Can't Post

I have a friend working on the show who told me a few things. And now I don't trust anything they've said Laugh


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

May 19, 1:47pm

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Anything is possible! [In reply to] Can't Post

After the crazy Mithril thing (not to mention the Harfoots and "the Stranger"), I wouldn't put anything past them.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


DwellerInDale
Rohan


May 19, 2:55pm

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This is arguably canon [In reply to] Can't Post

A YouTuber pointed out that in FOTR, Elrond (at the Council) remembered meeting Tom Bombadil long ago; at that time the elves called him Iarwain Ben-adar.

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AshNazg
Grey Havens


May 19, 3:59pm

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Nice. But what will he do? [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm not sure what he has to do with the story or why any of our characters would go near the Old Forest. But then I'm not sure what the story of RoP even is in the first place.

Here's a theory - What if four characters follow the spreading darkness into the Old Forest and come upon a certain tree (we saw moving roots in the trailer). Perhaps then they start to feel sleepy?

What if all this leads to them finding some swords? Maybe the Morgul blade, as some explanation of the wights? Or perhaps they find some other famous swords that glow blue?

Could they just take the whole Old Forest and Barrow-downs chapters and make them play out in roughly the same way? It would be like the wacky musical episode that many series have.


(This post was edited by AshNazg on May 19, 4:01pm)


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

May 19, 4:47pm

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Absolutely! [In reply to] Can't Post

To be clear, I'm not saying that he is not in the show, or even that I don't want him to be, just that we don't know because apparently at least some of the rumors were fake. I could imagine a scenario in which he could work, much more so than either the Harfoots or The Stranger/Probably-Gandalf, who's presence makes sense on no level at all.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


DwellerInDale
Rohan


May 19, 5:16pm

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Imaginative theory... [In reply to] Can't Post

...but I believe that the barrow-wight encounter may suit a more mundane purpose: to demonstrate that the evil influence of Sauron is having sinister effects throughout Middle-Earth, including the animation of dead creatures, the barrow-wights. It appears that Elrond and Galadriel's party encounter the wights while on an errand (to the Dwarves?). After the ensuing fight, perhaps they seek attention for their wounded and come across Tom Bombadil's house. Note that the creeping tree roots appear to occur in Linden, as evidenced by the lanterns in the background.

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Narvi
Lorien

May 19, 8:05pm

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probably not, but good eye! [In reply to] Can't Post

The high gables/A-frame construction are components of Southlander architecture in the show. This shot is likely staged in the ruins of the show's version of Pelargir, where the prior inhabitants of the Southlands travel at the end of S1. There were images released last year of this large outdoor set, which featured ruined Numenorean-looking architecture interspersed with Southlands-style huts and cottages like this one. It also looked to be a coastal settlement like Pelargir, which the large boat in the foreground of this photo would seem to support. The image is easy to confuse with the photos of the ruined version of the Eregion set. It's really just these mannish houses that distinguish the two.

As to who the riders are in this photo, I'm not sure. The ones in the rear are wearing high helms of some sort, like the Lindon guards we see toward the beginning of this featurette. Does this point to the foremost pair of riders being Galadriel and Elrond? Of that I'm not confident. The companions of these two on their quest through the wilderness wear no helms, and Galadriel has her hair bound up. This scene is therefore unlikely to be related to the barrow-wight encounter. So who is the character with long blond hair? Aside from Galadriel, there were no main characters with this hairstyle in S1. However, we know that Sauron at least will adopt this hairstyle at some point between his time as Halron in Mordor and his time as Annatar in Lindon. Is this Annatar, then? Or is it perhaps Amelia Kenworthy's mysterious character, who apparently shares scenes with Sauron? Or is this Galadriel on an unstated sidequest to Pelargir unrelated to her travels with Elrond and company on foot? So many questions!

Regarding the big collection of leaks posted on Reddit at the beginning of this year and reported on the TorN homepage, I'm fairly certain that all but one have been confirmed false. I do not remember which one was confirmed to be true, but I do not think it was the Bombadil encounter. FoF released a video reporting this; I will try to find it and double-check.


DwellerInDale
Rohan


May 20, 10:59am

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Interesting Theory [In reply to] Can't Post

One thing, though: the rider at the front is almost certainly Galadriel. The trailer and featurette each have several shots of her in her green cloak and riding her white horse. So unless they've invented a new character with blonde hair, a green cloak, and a white horse, It's her. Also, if this is Pelargir, would the "ruins" have such a bridge with beautiful lanterns? Time will tell I suppose.

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Narvi
Lorien

May 20, 12:58pm

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I hadn't noticed the lanterns until now--you're absolutely right, they certainly look elven. If this is Galadriel and the gold-cloaked riders are Lindon guards, then perhaps this is a settlement in Lindon? We didn't see much in the way of domestic architecture there in S1. Was there an interior shot of Gil-galad talking with Elrond toward the end of the season? The room/setting in which he appears here giving the command to guard the crossings looks familiar. Perhaps it's the interior of one of these stone-built structures. The scenes in the featurette seem to cluster together around specific characters and events, so I'm coming around to the idea that this is Galadriel arriving in Lindon. Who knows, perhaps this is Cirdan's dwelling!

Speaking of Gil-galad, why do you think he's putting his realm on lock-down? Has Galadriel or Elrond relayed the news of Sauron's return? Whom else would he want to apprehend fleeing the borders? Or is he afraid of an incursion into the realm by some individual or group, such as Adar's orcs? Most of the shots that we've seen so far could easily have been pulled from just two or three episodes of the season, so I have a feeling that there are many unexpected things lurking in the gaps between these.


DwellerInDale
Rohan


May 20, 3:13pm

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I hadn't considered that this could be Cirdan's abode. Hmmm, as the oldest elf in Middle-Earth, you'd think he could afford a larger place...maybe this house has rent control Wink. So perhaps Galadriel and the elven guards are there to deliver a Ring of Power...

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OldestDaughter
Rohan


May 20, 3:19pm

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I'd love to see a live action version of these two [In reply to] Can't Post

So I hope so!




"Keen, heart-piercing was her song as the song of the lark that rises from the gates of night and pours its voice among the dying stars, seeing the sun behind the walls of the world; and the song of Lúthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed."


fantasywind
Rivendell

Jul 9, 6:31pm

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What he has to do with the story? Well nothing really but they will push him in anwyay hahah [In reply to] Can't Post

Seriously at this point it shows that even a fanfic tv show that this is...cannot do anything other than repurposing the stuff from Tolkien in a way that rarely makes sense...first of all as far as Tom Bombadil presence...his involvement in events well in itself is problematic...because he doesn't get involved...he will help those in immediate danger, save those needing saving but he's not active participant in the plots and that's his way.

In any case if there was supposed to be Tom at all...I would say the only way to insert him to make some lick of sense would be to have him wander in the wilds of Eriador...so that Elrond can encounter him....AS PER ELROND'S WORDS:


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“ ‘But I had forgotten Bombadil, if indeed this is still the same that walked the woods and hills long ago, and even then was older than the old. That was not then his name. Iarwain Ben-adar we called him, oldest and fatherless. But many another name he has since been given by other folk: Forn by the Dwarves, Orald by Northern Men, and other names beside. He is a strange creature, but maybe I should have summoned him to our Council.’"


THAT would make some sort of sense...if Elrond encountered him in his travels...but in Rhun of all places? Of course it's only shoehorned in so that the wizard and his harfoot have something to do and so the script writers don't have to twist their heads trying to come up wiht SOMETHING of their own heheheh.

I mean seriously people at some point even the damned fanfics need to make some sort of internal sense! And this is a garbage fanfic show!

 
 

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