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Sunflower
Valinor
Jan 7 2011, 6:42pm
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It's actually 65 years (60 between TH and FOTR, the year of the War of the Ring, and 4 more years after the end of the War, to the last scene in Bag End. Unless they show Frodo reading from the almost-completed Red Book say, 3 after. ) MrCere, does the rumor say we are actually going to SEE Frodo onscreen in the opening scene of TH 1? If we merely hear him doing a voice-over, it presents far less problems. It would b easier for me to accept the occaisional voice-over during TH as well. Then, you are still in the dark about who this mysterious "narrator" is, and the existence of Frodo and the timeframe of the narrative/identity of the Narrator is gradually revealed as the story goes on. (at the beg. of FOTR the future viewer realizes, "Oh, so this is who it is! Frodo, son of Drogo and Primula, and Bilbo adopted him!" --it seems we are going to be seeing the tragic deaths of, or at least a Hobbiton scene of, Drogo and Primula). This is the Problem: this is all a lot easier to believe if the future viewer is watching the EE's. But if they are watching the Theatricals, this won't make any sense at all. ""60 years later" at the beginning of FOTR, as we see Frodo under the tree? And we've just seen the Prologue which takes you 3000 years back in tim. I remember watching the Prologue in the theater the first time, and if I hadn't known the story well, I imagine that "60 yrs later" would have confuse me at first. 60 yrs after what? Oh, right, 60 yrs after Bilbo finds a ring in a cave. That Prologue was seemingly straightforward but really asked a lot of movie-firsters, I'm thinking. (I'd love to hear reactions from movie-firsters if the Prolgue confused you at all, the first time you saw it?) You have to remember, that Peter is facing the same problem George Lucas faced with the SW prequels. Fans of now may grouse, but this is really being made for future generations, where they'll sit down and watch the Pentology in order. So if we hear Frodo as a narrator in TH long before we see him onscreen, it would work wonderfully. (Except the theatrical would present some problems--that "60 yrs later" would have to be removed--as well as Ian Holm not looking like Martin in that brief flash-back? forward? scene in the FOTR Prologue --OUCH MY POOR BRAIN)-- If WB is pressuring Peter into doing a sort of "Super-Prologue" to tie all this up for the movie-firster, when it really isn;t necessary, we're screwed. They have to have faith that it makes far more sense for the viewer to gradually find out who the narrator is, and the story would flow a lot better. OH God nightmare visions of Dune here* But if the script calls for the audience to *see* Frodo in the very first scene of The Pentology, this would cause problems. How do you explain this character to the first-time movie-firster of the future? We see a mysterious scene of a hobbit reading a book he is writing in a house we don't know, yet, is Bag End. Is he alone, reading it as he writies it, as we later see Bilbo doing at the beginning of FOTR EE? Maybe that would work--if it's a brief teaser, just to get our curiosity piqued--if we are told nothing, If Frodo tells us nothing. IS Elijah really going to be reading the first pages word for word--"IN the hole in the groumd there lived a Hobbit?" etc. And when Gandlaf appears, he's say, "Gandalf! If you'd half of what I heard" etc. Will he be reading to Elanor maybe? That would be a problem, since we'd only be able to see the back of Elanor's head, it being a miracle if they could find a 3-yr-old who looks exactly like 3-yr-old Alexandra did. (Although the aspect of the Saga having evolved, as Sam wished it, into a "fireside-tale for young Hobbits" is a charming one, if it is realized on the screen.It was hinted at at the end of TTT< in Sam's speech, just as it was in the book. That would be a nice evolving transition. ) Would we see Sam as well? Increasingly I think that Sean should narrate the darned thing, since "the very last pages were really his." I wish if Peter ever adds anything in the Ultimate Edition, it would be for a middle-aged or older Sean Astin handing the Red Book off to grown-up Alexandra, and hey, his other 2 grown kids, playing Goldilocks and Rosie-lass,etc--that woul be **absolutely enchanting**--I think they'd do it too! --not likely though--but hey a gal can dream can't she?) (Ok Sunflower, you're going insane. Stop the madness now. ) Count on us fans to make a mountain out of a mol-hill-or in this case a Hobbit-hill. I'll bet Peter and Co and Guillermo (if he still reads this) are laughing their heads off. This is all probsbly hoo-hah, as HM says, over nothing.
(This post was edited by Sunflower on Jan 7 2011, 6:49pm)
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User
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Time
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Elijah Wood will be in 'The Hobbit'
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News from Bree
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Jan 6 2011, 11:20pm
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I knew it!
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 7 2011, 5:52am
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Wow!
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 6:14am
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Not a fan of this
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duats
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Jan 7 2011, 6:15am
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My reaction is the same, but...
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Milknut
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Jan 7 2011, 6:24am
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It just strikes me
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duats
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Jan 7 2011, 6:29am
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The filmmakers, or the film's budget providers?
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 6:46am
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Agreed.
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Owain
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Jan 7 2011, 6:50am
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This is NOT a shock... tho is is sad.
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jarrellj
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Jan 7 2011, 2:42pm
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PJ, Fran and Philippa Boyens are huge fans of Tolkien.
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 2:44pm
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And let's not forget Guillermo del Toro
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 2:47pm
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I'm not so sure on GDT.
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 2:57pm
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I think that statement was taken out of context.
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 5:22pm
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respectfully disagree
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 5:30am
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Really?
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Sunflower
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Jan 8 2011, 6:07am
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I'm afraid PJ will turn him into at least a bit of an "action-hobbit", sadly.//
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The Party Tree
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Jan 8 2011, 6:31am
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is it that much of a stretch??
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 6:47am
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really!
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 6:36am
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A couple of questions:
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 8 2011, 6:48am
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...
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 7:02am
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I wouldn't say
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Flagg
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Jan 8 2011, 2:15pm
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case in point...
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 8:39pm
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According to the EE appendices
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Flagg
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Jan 8 2011, 8:58pm
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let me check
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 9:27pm
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I think the other reasons
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Flagg
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Jan 8 2011, 9:38pm
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question
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 9:48pm
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Well
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Flagg
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Jan 8 2011, 10:03pm
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I concur
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nobofthepony
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Jan 9 2011, 12:51am
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Aragorn and the cliff
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Bran
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Jan 9 2011, 11:06am
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exact quote...
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 8 2011, 9:51pm
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Well they were hardly going to say something like
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Flagg
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Jan 8 2011, 10:08pm
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But sometimes they should
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Altaira
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Jan 8 2011, 10:26pm
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I meant no disrespect to them
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Flagg
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Jan 8 2011, 10:31pm
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Lets also not forget
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Junesong
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Jan 8 2011, 11:34pm
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I think
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macfalk
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Jan 9 2011, 12:31am
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14 foot bad guys
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Bran
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Jan 9 2011, 11:02am
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Yes he did change his mind
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Ataahua
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Jan 7 2011, 7:54pm
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Financial gain first?
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 5:39pm
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I'm sorry but
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R11
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Jan 7 2011, 9:13pm
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Agree with duats...
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Captain Salt
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Jan 7 2011, 5:42pm
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The Hobbit or the Hen?
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mtsquad
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Jan 7 2011, 11:22pm
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HUH?
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Sunflower
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Jan 7 2011, 6:43am
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Methinks Peter has been watching too much LOST.//
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Owain
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Jan 7 2011, 6:54am
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LOL
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Sunflower
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Jan 7 2011, 7:03am
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My brain hurst as well.
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Owain
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Jan 7 2011, 7:05am
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Great points by the way.//
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Owain
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Jan 7 2011, 6:55am
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Yes, actor Ryan Gage
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 11:33am
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Also, what most of the nay-sayers are forgetting
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 11:58am
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There will be blood...
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Bound
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Jan 7 2011, 12:19pm
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We're Fans. Of course we're going to cry, moan, complain, and bicker about every little detail! What else did you expect? ;) //
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 2:26pm
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Narrator
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Vangalad
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Jan 7 2011, 12:30pm
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The narrator's voice
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 1:52pm
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But you forget
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Sunflower
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Jan 7 2011, 6:42pm
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How the heck must these movies then be viewed in future?
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hobbit2012
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Jan 7 2011, 7:46pm
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Two points
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 7:53pm
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My guess is that we could possibly see Ian Holm telling Wood
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Eruonen
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Jan 7 2011, 8:28pm
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Elijah Wood 10 years on
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carrioncrow
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Jan 7 2011, 11:40pm
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I love it
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Junesong
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Jan 7 2011, 6:28am
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Every time I come on here
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Lindele
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Jan 7 2011, 3:00pm
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A bit too much complaining, yes //
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 3:07pm
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If you think this is bad....
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Darkstone
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Jan 7 2011, 3:16pm
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In my crystal ball
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 3:24pm
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Or else...
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Darkstone
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Jan 7 2011, 3:32pm
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Both.
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Silverlode
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Jan 7 2011, 7:02pm
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It's not a purse! It's a Middle Earthian carry-all!!
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Brandybuckled
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Jan 7 2011, 7:16pm
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LOL!
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 7:42pm
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Well, if we're allowed only to agree with everything...
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 4:10pm
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Right.
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Elentari03
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Jan 7 2011, 4:24pm
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That is by no means what I'm saying
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Lindele
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Jan 7 2011, 4:44pm
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Lindele..
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Patty
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Jan 7 2011, 4:46pm
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Lindele
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 5:37pm
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Not so much positive or negative,
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 6:11pm
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Sorry.
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 6:25pm
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Lindele, I see your point.
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Silverlode
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Jan 7 2011, 7:11pm
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You're right about the McKellen announcement
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 7:20pm
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I think
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 7:26pm
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Here's a thought
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Pipe Dream
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Jan 7 2011, 7:36pm
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I love the idea of working Bombadil in somehow
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 7:39pm
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Well, I was hoping that everyone would be new, too.
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 7:26pm
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I agree
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 7:33pm
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Well, no.
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 7:39pm
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What you are talking about sounds like a reboot
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 7:47pm
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That's exactly what I wanted.
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 8:41pm
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Audiences don't want excellent series to be rebooted.
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 8:55pm
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Everyone? Who is this "everyone"?
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 9:01pm
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I don't think I'm being unreasonable.
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 9:11pm
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Please take this to PM if you must continue
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Altaira
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Jan 7 2011, 10:14pm
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Continuity
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 11:26pm
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Thanks Silverlode
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Lindele
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Jan 9 2011, 7:00am
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I agree
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LoremIpsum
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Jan 9 2011, 8:01am
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Tying in The Hobbit with LOTR
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Bran
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Jan 9 2011, 11:18am
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and then...
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carrioncrow
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Jan 9 2011, 2:19pm
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Well he didn't need to
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Bran
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Jan 9 2011, 2:36pm
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I wish there was a like option like facebook
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Junesong
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Jan 9 2011, 6:45pm
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"Naysayers"
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Sunflower
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Jan 9 2011, 7:51pm
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Sunflower, Thanks for that
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Bran
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Jan 9 2011, 8:50pm
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I agree with basically everything you said
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 9 2011, 9:54pm
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Making Bilbo's journey more powerful than it is in the book.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 9 2011, 9:55pm
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Who said Bilbo's journey was weak?
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Flagg
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Jan 10 2011, 3:49pm
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Improvement is a very relative term
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 10 2011, 4:02pm
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Do you really think so?
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Flagg
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Jan 10 2011, 4:56pm
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But we know
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Bran
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Jan 10 2011, 5:05pm
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It's only going to get worse :)
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 4:58pm
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Remark about "upsetting the most ardent purists"
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 6:33am
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You are right
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MrCere
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Jan 7 2011, 7:06am
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Heh!
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 7:35am
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Regarding purists
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 12:26pm
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Oh yes, I agree there are different levels of 'purity'
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 2:19pm
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Thanks! You just gave me an idea for my sig line!
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Brandybuckled
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Jan 7 2011, 6:57pm
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Forgive my ignorance, but
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Elentari03
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Jan 7 2011, 10:51pm
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NARF: Not a real fan. //
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 10:53pm
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Many thanks.//
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Elentari03
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Jan 7 2011, 10:58pm
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Most things like that can be found at the TORNspeak dictionary
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Pipe Dream
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Jan 7 2011, 10:59pm
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LOL!!
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 11:16pm
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You are correct, sir!
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hamlet
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Jan 7 2011, 5:13pm
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Hmmm...
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Owain
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Jan 7 2011, 6:44am
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Good point
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Sunflower
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Jan 7 2011, 7:00am
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And what about Sir Ian Holm?
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RaoulJ
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Jan 7 2011, 7:27am
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I believe Ian Holm has retired from acting. Health issues I believe.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 7:30am
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Oh yes, I just said this in MrCere's poll in the pollantir...
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Patty
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Jan 7 2011, 7:35am
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yes
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RaoulJ
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Jan 7 2011, 8:42am
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So
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rings7
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Jan 8 2011, 5:15am
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It would fit with the Hobbit's narrative style!
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 7:00am
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It would fit the narrative style for sure...
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Owain
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Jan 7 2011, 7:10am
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about the Princess Bride..
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titanium_hobbit
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Jan 7 2011, 7:23am
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Relax
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sharku
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Jan 7 2011, 7:35am
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"No mention of Christopher Lee"
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Patty
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Jan 7 2011, 7:40am
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Sort of like my unwavering belief
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 7:44am
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I suspect Guillermo del Toro had nothing to do with this.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 8:00am
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I don't view it as one, either
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 7:39am
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What I thought from the start...
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moreorless
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Jan 7 2011, 5:15pm
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Why not run with the book version?
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flying fish
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Jan 8 2011, 10:12am
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I may have read it wrong but
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sphdle1
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Jan 7 2011, 12:31pm
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making freeman the earlier version of holmes
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titanium_hobbit
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Jan 7 2011, 7:01am
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Of course he won't be the 15th member...
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 7 2011, 7:18am
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Now I have to go home and dig out a letter I wrote and sent
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 7:22am
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I have to be honest
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Eärwen Swan Maiden Of Alqualondë
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Jan 7 2011, 5:05pm
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Hear hear!
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Mithrandír
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Jan 7 2011, 5:24pm
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So it takes Frodo
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Ataahua
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Jan 7 2011, 8:01pm
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Hi Ataahua!! *waves*
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Eärwen Swan Maiden Of Alqualondë
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Jan 8 2011, 3:46pm
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*Points at Kangi....."Burn him!"
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Snaga
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Jan 7 2011, 11:37pm
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The thought of being responsible makes me queasy.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 8 2011, 12:23am
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I found the letter. I thought I had deleted it but It got saved on disk when I backed up My Doccuments
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 8 2011, 1:38am
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If you wrote that letter then why are you dissappointed by this news? //
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lurtz2010
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Jan 8 2011, 2:23am
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As I said earlier:
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 8 2011, 2:32am
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The Neverending Hobbit
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guitarzankansasfan
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Jan 7 2011, 8:04am
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But wasn't there a car chase in there some where?//
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 8:06am
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Re: The Neverending Hobbit
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Seanwise
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Jan 7 2011, 12:50pm
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Not really surprised..
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Bound
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Jan 7 2011, 8:49am
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Agreed!
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Imladris18
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Jan 7 2011, 9:13am
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I like it...
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Maiarmike
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Jan 7 2011, 9:21am
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sniff sniff.
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Welsh hero
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Jan 7 2011, 9:04am
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I'm just delighted!!!
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mae govannen
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Jan 7 2011, 9:26am
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This is fun!
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dormouse
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Jan 7 2011, 1:19pm
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Well, it does make sense to do it that way
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Kyriel
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Jan 7 2011, 11:01am
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Oh. My. Gahd... No
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geordie
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Jan 7 2011, 1:28pm
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That's a tad melodramatic.
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 1:30pm
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Honest question
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 2:24pm
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Perhaps
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 2:39pm
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Geordie.... come back.... ;-)
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dormouse
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Jan 7 2011, 2:48pm
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I think he was being tongue in cheek
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jan 7 2011, 3:36pm
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sorry
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geordie
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Jan 7 2011, 4:10pm
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Well... goodbye geordie.
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 4:28pm
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Ah, the youth of today...
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 4:55pm
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I'm guessing..
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Bound
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Jan 7 2011, 6:48pm
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I agree, it seemed as a strange comment to make //
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 6:54pm
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Very interesting
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 1:29pm
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Yes! Sam would be a better choice to flow off of tRotK
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Daeorn Aldalómë
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Jan 7 2011, 2:21pm
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Sequel? How can it be....
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dormouse
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Jan 7 2011, 2:56pm
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The impression I got
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 3:07pm
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Red Book reading
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 5:47pm
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No conclusive reason.
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 5:59pm
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No probs
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 6:06pm
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Agreed
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 6:18pm
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Knowledge of the ring
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 6:54pm
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Yes that occured
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 9:23pm
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Just to add -- already looking forward to
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 9:41pm
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I think that's right
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 11:38pm
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Oh, well, welcome to TORn then Bran
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SirDennisC
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Jan 9 2011, 1:34am
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Hint to Bran:
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macfalk
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Jan 9 2011, 1:52am
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No-no Threaded always!
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 9 2011, 3:42am
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SirDennis, Macfalk
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Bran
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Jan 9 2011, 11:13am
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You always make good sense Flagg
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silneldor
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Jan 7 2011, 9:41pm
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Thanks, silneldor – I appreciate it. //
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 9:48pm
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Sam would have been a logical choice...
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The Party Tree
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Jan 7 2011, 11:06pm
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I'm for it.
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Pipe Dream
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Jan 7 2011, 2:07pm
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" the most famousest of hobbits "
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Rivendweller
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Jan 7 2011, 4:22pm
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Could Frodo be "reading" Bilbo's story in Rivendell?
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Daeorn Aldalómë
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Jan 7 2011, 2:15pm
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The Hobbit is not a LOTR prequel, it's a sequel
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nobofthepony
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Jan 7 2011, 2:36pm
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Is it sure that Frodo will experience the story through the book?
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RaoulJ
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Jan 7 2011, 3:04pm
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Since Frodo is back, Strider should make an appearance as well. //
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 3:13pm
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Boromir too //
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 3:15pm
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I wonder how are they going to get Lurtz in there? /
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Darkstone
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Jan 7 2011, 3:18pm
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We see a flashback where Lurtz attacks Itaril... //
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acheron
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Jan 7 2011, 4:05pm
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Or maybe Lurtz *is* Itaril!
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Darkstone
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Jan 7 2011, 7:16pm
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*mods up*
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Patty
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Jan 7 2011, 7:20pm
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Haha. Good one, Darkstone //
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 7:23pm
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Maybe this is where they're moving the Trolls' purse. //
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 7:28pm
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So they're making a troll's purse from an elf's ear? /
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Darkstone
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Jan 7 2011, 7:35pm
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It is a gift. //
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 7:36pm
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No wonder she wouldn't take it back /
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 10:20pm
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Boromir as the first ghost of Yules past.//
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 8:36pm
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Must... resist... fangirl.. urge... to agree... seriously... //
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 4:56pm
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Strangely absent here: "A squeee heard round the world." /
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SirDennisC
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Jan 10 2011, 5:04pm
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I knew as soon as they started announcing cameos that I'd get addicted.//
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The Party Tree
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Jan 7 2011, 6:38pm
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What I'm More Concerned About...
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DarthNeeson
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Jan 7 2011, 3:25pm
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Christopher Lee would love to play Saruman in The Hobbit
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 3:33pm
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Frank Langella as Saruman....
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KingofAncients
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Jan 7 2011, 5:24pm
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It wasn't my idea
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 5:32pm
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Langella
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 5:35pm
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They both have played Dracula, did you know?//
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 11:07pm
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Did they play the same Dracula?
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 11:14pm
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Lee did several Dracula & vampire films.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 8 2011, 12:31am
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Lee as Saruman
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 5:50pm
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I trust Pete!
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petesimac
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Jan 7 2011, 3:36pm
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Quite Intriguing
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Lord Maegmoth
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Jan 7 2011, 4:16pm
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Agreed.
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Elentari03
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Jan 7 2011, 4:31pm
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Relieved!
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Shireling
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Jan 7 2011, 4:36pm
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GREAT
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Alex Maglor
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Jan 7 2011, 4:52pm
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Seamless transition...
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Junesong
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Jan 7 2011, 4:58pm
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I like it!!
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Daeorn Aldalómë
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Jan 7 2011, 6:01pm
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yes yes yes!
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titanium_hobbit
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Jan 9 2011, 3:26am
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Great narrating
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Mithrandír
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Jan 7 2011, 5:22pm
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without even reading ...
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xy
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Jan 7 2011, 5:22pm
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No, he was nor born
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 5:26pm
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As good a way as any
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DrDeath153
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Jan 7 2011, 5:52pm
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Great news if true
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LoremIpsum
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Jan 7 2011, 6:09pm
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What happens to....
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Jettorex
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Jan 7 2011, 6:30pm
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Especially since...
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Daeorn Aldalómë
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Jan 7 2011, 6:34pm
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That depends
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 6:38pm
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If you ask me,
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Silverlode
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Jan 7 2011, 7:40pm
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I agree
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Jettorex
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Jan 7 2011, 8:31pm
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That would be perfect.
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The Party Tree
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Jan 7 2011, 6:44pm
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Who knows?
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dormouse
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Jan 7 2011, 7:11pm
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Me too
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 11:20pm
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Wonderful news!!
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peleowyn
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Jan 7 2011, 7:17pm
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Guess I'll jump in
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Doriath
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Jan 7 2011, 7:40pm
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I like the idea
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 8:01pm
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Middle-earth I: The Phantom Hobbit
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 8:23pm
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I'm just glad they won't swap Gollum with Jar-Jar. //
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 8:24pm
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You said it, Macfalk...
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Patty
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Jan 7 2011, 8:28pm
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What makes you so certain?
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 8:43pm
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Gandalf to Balrog: "Why do I get the feeling you will be the death of me?"//
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 5:44am
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Drogo and Primula
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jan 7 2011, 8:56pm
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Yes it looks as if the Bridge Film is being reborn as a Wrapper for the Hobbit.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 9:30pm
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I wonder how much GDT is really still involved in the script writing.
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Pipe Dream
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Jan 7 2011, 9:44pm
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The script should be very close to completion by now
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 9:48pm
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Most likely true,
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Pipe Dream
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Jan 7 2011, 9:53pm
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Going out on a limb here
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 9:55pm
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I'm not saying I mind...
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Pipe Dream
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Jan 7 2011, 10:00pm
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True dat
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 10:17pm
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NDA?
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Bound
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Jan 7 2011, 10:18pm
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Guessing Non-disclosure agreement.
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Pipe Dream
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Jan 7 2011, 10:19pm
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ah right...
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Bound
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Jan 7 2011, 10:22pm
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Both Kangi and I take exception to that appraisal
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 10:46pm
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Apologies...
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Bound
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Jan 7 2011, 11:01pm
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Sean Astin
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macfalk
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Jan 8 2011, 12:08am
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Wait, what?
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Ataahua
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:16pm
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Yarp...
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Bound
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Jan 7 2011, 11:23pm
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Love him to pieces, but...
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The Party Tree
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:32pm
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Honesty the best policy..
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Bound
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Jan 7 2011, 11:39pm
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I love Sean
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Sunflower
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Jan 7 2011, 11:56pm
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Oh no, I agree completely
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 8 2011, 3:39am
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Thanks for being understanding
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Sunflower
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Jan 8 2011, 6:19am
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Wrong target
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SirDennisC
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:37am
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Oh, well,
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Ataahua
|
Jan 8 2011, 2:03am
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I would beg to differ.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 10:00pm
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It may have escaped my attention
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 10:13pm
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Not necessarily so. 3-D is a big for instance.//
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 9:56pm
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I think this whole approach is new.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 9:54pm
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Not new
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jan 7 2011, 10:10pm
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Perhaps you are correct but there is new and NEW.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 10:38pm
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Bringing back cast members
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 11:53pm
|
Except that, of all of those...
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RosieLass
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:59pm
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Well yes
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Bran
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Jan 8 2011, 12:08am
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Only Balin's tomb was shown //
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macfalk
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:31am
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Balin's tomb
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Bran
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Jan 8 2011, 9:31am
|
The bridge film is dead.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 8 2011, 10:32am
|
I know the bridge film is dead
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Bran
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Jan 8 2011, 10:56am
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I did not say that such events would not be drug in.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 8 2011, 11:05am
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Balin
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Bran
|
Jan 8 2011, 11:13am
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The telling of the failed effort to colonize Moria by Balin & company
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 11:46am
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Kangi
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macfalk
|
Jan 8 2011, 11:55am
|
The letter I quoted in an earlier post was from the fanfic part of my brain.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 8 2011, 12:05pm
|
Balin in Moria not necessary for the Hobbit
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Bran
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Jan 8 2011, 12:01pm
|
It would take one line of dialog
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:55pm
|
Let's agree to differ!
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Bran
|
Jan 8 2011, 1:00pm
|
Bridge film is dead, but
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macfalk
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Jan 8 2011, 11:25am
|
I am not trying to champion a purist approach to the Hobbit.
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:00pm
|
There's an easy solution to this
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Flagg
|
Jan 8 2011, 1:42pm
|
I agree with that
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Bran
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Jan 8 2011, 2:08pm
|
I was pointing out that many of these side issues can be taken care of inside the story of The Hobbit.
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 5:34pm
|
Haha
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SirDennisC
|
Jan 7 2011, 9:48pm
|
I mentioned it, Voronwe
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Sunflower
|
Jan 7 2011, 9:32pm
|
With his patented weird angles and everything
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SirDennisC
|
Jan 7 2011, 9:43pm
|
and don't forget the slo-mo!
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Sunflower
|
Jan 7 2011, 10:42pm
|
Preach it sista!
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SirDennisC
|
Jan 7 2011, 10:49pm
|
They can do a bazillion frames a minute...
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 7 2011, 10:58pm
|
So it was you huh? When was your last visit to France?
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Pipe Dream
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:27pm
|
Sadly, I have never been to France.
|
Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:56am
|
Are you kidding?
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Sunflower
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:06am
|
Not really
|
SirDennisC
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:41am
|
Best example...
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Bound
|
Jan 8 2011, 10:11am
|
Guillermo's tentacles are only an ugly rumor. //
|
Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 10:36am
|
One thing is for certain.
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Pipe Dream
|
Jan 7 2011, 10:26pm
|
He's pretty savvy and/or
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SirDennisC
|
Jan 7 2011, 10:38pm
|
Everything is different now
|
lurtz2010
|
Jan 7 2011, 10:43pm
|
It was at dinner at Ozzie & Harriet's house
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:03pm
|
-Pretty close.
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Pipe Dream
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:13pm
|
torn
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carrioncrow
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:21pm
|
for what its worth
|
carrioncrow
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:03am
|
This is a charming idea!
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The Party Tree
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:15am
|
I've always wonderd about that.
|
Sunflower
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:29am
|
Sam inherits Bag End and stays there in the book, but they must have just abandoned that whole idea in the movie
|
The Party Tree
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:37am
|
If so,
|
Sunflower
|
Jan 8 2011, 6:16am
|
The couldn't have easily changed it for the EE, though.
|
The Party Tree
|
Jan 8 2011, 6:33am
|
It seems like a deliberate change to me
|
FarFromHome
|
Jan 8 2011, 11:48am
|
Perhaps film-Frodo liked to live alone
|
Flagg
|
Jan 8 2011, 1:35pm
|
According to what Frodo is writing in the Red Book in those final scenes...
|
The Party Tree
|
Jan 8 2011, 4:11pm
|
I'd forgotten that Sam becoming Mayor
|
FarFromHome
|
Jan 8 2011, 8:23pm
|
Sam and his family were
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 9 2011, 1:25am
|
If that's not Sam's own door closing
|
FarFromHome
|
Jan 9 2011, 10:50am
|
You are free to believe what ever you want as am I.
|
Kangi Ska
|
Jan 9 2011, 5:20pm
|
Not so much belief as a matter of perspective --
|
SirDennisC
|
Jan 9 2011, 6:25pm
|
Why, thank you Sir Dennis
|
FarFromHome
|
Jan 9 2011, 9:19pm
|
Bag End
|
Bran
|
Jan 9 2011, 7:07pm
|
I think that was in Sauron Defeated
|
Flagg
|
Jan 9 2011, 7:21pm
|
Quite possibly
|
Bran
|
Jan 9 2011, 7:27pm
|
That was The Quest of Erebor
|
Flagg
|
Jan 9 2011, 7:50pm
|
It's in The Return of the King
|
geordie
|
Jan 9 2011, 8:06pm
|
Thanks
|
Bran
|
Jan 9 2011, 8:51pm
|
Thanks geordie
|
Kangi Ska
|
Jan 9 2011, 10:26pm
|
My pleasure -
|
geordie
|
Jan 9 2011, 11:11pm
|
That's the book.
|
FarFromHome
|
Jan 9 2011, 8:56pm
|
My apologies, FFH
|
Bran
|
Jan 9 2011, 9:02pm
|
No need...
|
FarFromHome
|
Jan 9 2011, 9:14pm
|
No argument about that.
|
FarFromHome
|
Jan 9 2011, 9:10pm
|
So Frodo will probably end film 1
|
lurtz2010
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:45pm
|
I certainly hope not.
|
Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 6:53am
|
UPDATE
|
Bound
|
Jan 8 2011, 10:19am
|
Now we know who is replacing Bard for the killing of Smaug!
|
Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 10:42am
|
"Star" in the film?
|
Ainu Laire
|
Jan 8 2011, 6:17pm
|
I think and hope
|
dormouse
|
Jan 8 2011, 7:11pm
|
The way it works:
|
SirDennisC
|
Jan 8 2011, 7:54pm
|
dormouse
|
macfalk
|
Jan 8 2011, 8:17pm
|
don't like it
|
Ardamírë
|
Jan 9 2011, 4:27am
|
Well this changes everything
|
Frodosfriend
|
Jan 9 2011, 4:36am
|
Call Guiness World Of Records!
|
Ruijor
|
Jan 9 2011, 5:33am
|
Just to clarify
|
duats
|
Jan 9 2011, 9:12pm
|
I wanted no more LoTR tie-ins than what was absolutely necessary.
|
Bran
|
Jan 9 2011, 9:28pm
|
Well
|
duats
|
Jan 9 2011, 9:51pm
|
OK, I'm repeating myself, too.....
|
Bran
|
Jan 9 2011, 10:17pm
|
Here's another question
|
duats
|
Jan 9 2011, 10:30pm
|
I don't know how those things work
|
Bran
|
Jan 10 2011, 12:10am
|
I raised the same question earlier
|
Flagg
|
Jan 10 2011, 3:51pm
|
I suppose the question is........
|
dormouse
|
Jan 10 2011, 4:16pm
|
Maybe nobody knows
|
Junesong
|
Jan 10 2011, 4:40pm
|
Agreed...
|
Bound
|
Jan 10 2011, 4:46pm
|
I think it's safe to assume Bilbo knew about Dol Guldur, etc.
|
Altaira
|
Jan 10 2011, 6:11pm
|
I very much agree with that altaira
|
Bran
|
Jan 10 2011, 6:39pm
|
He did, to an extent
|
duats
|
Jan 10 2011, 11:10pm
|
Artistic licence
|
Flagg
|
Jan 11 2011, 10:27pm
|
Gandalf's report
|
Otaku-sempai
|
Jan 12 2011, 11:13pm
|
This could work really well.
|
Bregolas
|
Jan 13 2011, 10:54pm
|
Regarding Balin
|
duats
|
Jan 9 2011, 10:41pm
|
Whilst I don't think it is necessary
|
Bran
|
Jan 10 2011, 12:12am
|
It appears that the only non-essential things that might be included in these two films
|
Kangi Ska
|
Jan 9 2011, 10:54pm
|
As I said earlier Kangi
|
Bran
|
Jan 10 2011, 12:13am
|
Just Say Nay!
|
Kangi Ska
|
Jan 9 2011, 10:45pm
|
'Just say Nay'
|
geordie
|
Jan 9 2011, 11:14pm
|
Speculation is not fact
|
shadowdog
|
Jan 10 2011, 1:56am
|
right on
|
Ardamírë
|
Jan 10 2011, 11:20pm
|
As long as the opening is set during "The Hobbit" timeline
|
Pete
|
Jan 10 2011, 5:35am
|
Posted by Jettorex: CNN.com quoting EW on Elijah Wood appearing in The Hobbit...
|
Altaira
|
Jan 10 2011, 10:14pm
|
And add to that....
|
dormouse
|
Jan 10 2011, 11:12pm
|
Questions. Questions???
|
Jettorex
|
Jan 11 2011, 3:18pm
|
WAHOOOO!!!!! :D
|
grammaboodawg
|
Jan 11 2011, 9:53am
|
After a little thought, in the "it's good" camp
|
Tim
|
Jan 11 2011, 2:12pm
|
Skeptical...
|
meltsar
|
Jan 14 2011, 1:06am
|
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