who did you tell about your quest beyond your kin.( pos spoiler)

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Balgrizar

The Shire
"No one i swear". And i belive thorin.
Isnt bolg referred to as a torturer? With this in mind and azog says "i remember your father reeked of it (not sure what 'reeked' is). This makes me belive that we will see something like this:
Gandalf finds thrain i dg and gets the key, thrain dies. The necro wants to know whats up and brings him back to life. Bolg tortures thrain, and thrain spoils gandalfs/thorins mission. Bolg informs his father and azog send out his warg riders we se at the campfire scene.
What do you think? (Hope i made myself understandable)
 
The only other, aside from the dwarves whom would have specific knowledge about the quest is Gandalf afterall, he arranged the inclusion of a certain Hobbit.

I suspect Gandalf is at fault somehow, perhaps Thrain reveals he has given the key and map to Gandalf, thus it is Gandalf whom is really being hunted.
 
my go to for definitions is either onelook.com or just typing a word into google. :-)

reek
Verb
Smell strongly and unpleasantly; stink.
Noun
A foul smell.
Synonyms
verb. stink - smell - smoke - fume
noun. stink - stench - fume - vapour - vapor - steam - smell


Is this part you wrote an abbreviation of some sort or a typo: Gandalf finds thrain i dg
 
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the necro overhears gandalf and thrain, or maybe he has knowlegde of what the key is for. By following gandalf with the key, azog knows he will be lead to thorin
 
Saruman......he repeated at the whit council of knowing that Gandalf was up to something with the dwarves.. And if they would have came to him he would have denied them help, etc...

Being jealous of Gandalf and keeping an eye on him, I would say he more than likely alerted his "soon to be friends" on Thorin's quest...
 
That might be a little early to have Saruman actually tipoff orcs, but he certainly wasn't going to help Thorin, that much is true. In fact, he might have been interested to know what was in the dragon's hoard that might lead to the One Ring. (A mistaken assumption, but Saruman would investigate all angles)
 
If we were to believe that Bolg was a Dol Guldur torturer, and Thrain will be found in the dungeons of Dol Guldur, then I think Bolg got it out of Thrain. The meeting between Thrain and Gandalf will probably be shown in the Prologue somewhere (or a flashback).
 
The group of orcs saw the company when they were camping, they informed Azog and ambushed them in the woods. Gandalf asks this because he assumes there's a leak of information about the quest, but in fact we have seen orcs seeing dwarves from afar.
 
When the gundabad orcs are that far away from home they must be there for a reason. And dont they say something about "we found them, we must inform the master. Azog knows that thorin is on the move, and i still belive crazy halfdead thrain is involved
 
Necromancy does not mean the ability to bring someone back to life.

nec·ro·man·cy [nek-ruh-man-see][/url] noun 1. a method of divination through alleged communication with the dead; black art. 2. magic in general, especially that practiced by a witch or sorcerer; sorcery; witchcraft; conjuration.

Perhaps you can argue that witchcraft or conjuring may imply such abilities but people have been using this word too freely to mean just one thing: the ability to resurrect the dead. I suspect Tolkien would have been well aware of its correct usage.
 
Tolkien almost certainly knew of the original usage of the term necromancy, the use of magic to summon and speak to the spirits of the dead, there is evidence that the term is also accurate in the broader sense. Through the Rings of Power and Morgal-blades, he and his minions were able to create Wraiths. The Witch-king of Anmar was able to send Wights from the North to inhabit the Barrows and tombs of Eriador. And, of course, there was Morgoth creating monsters by infusing normal beasts with evil or corrupted spirits.

At its most general, necromancy can be defined, simply, as "magic concerning the dead".
 
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yes, azog (very helpfully) mentioned that thrain reeked of fear. i think it's plausible for someone who is being tortured to be fearful, so i think it's possible that azog was (and for other reasons) the torturer of thrain.

i'm not necessarily championing that theory; i just think it's possible.

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My thoughts is that after the battle of Azanulbizar, Azog, who had already sworn to wipe out the line of Durin, would have been doubly so after losing his hand to Thorin-after he stuck that claw in the wound and healed of course. And he knew that Thorin survived the battle. The dwarves had likely (not sure about timeline but PJ shortened it from the book) settled in Ered Luin (blue mountains) right after the battle or at some point not too far away from it I believe, and it would have been very difficult for orcs to make it all the way west and so far away from their master to storm Ered Luin. So I would imagine that Azog had been hunting Thorin for years, and must not have gotten lucky with Thorin being so far west.

As to specifically setting out to hunt him at the time of the quest, I think IMO that the orcs were there possibly continuing a decades long hunt for Thorin and that when Thorin finally after so many years out west ended up east where the orcs happened to be, they finally found them and began officially hunting (meaning following tracks and such) after that night on the cliff when they were spotted. Why the orc pack crossed the Bruinen is probably the same reason why the trolls came down from the mountains-not necessarily to specifically hunt Thorin, but rather because Sauron's presence was growing again and foul creatures were once again gaining the ability to start venturing further and further from their strongholds.

It also could be that Thorin and Gandalf had a spy amongst them when they talked about the quest at Bree before the company was even gathered, and the spy informed Azog that Thorin would be heading east soon-closer to Azog and orc/goblin territory (the Misty Mountains). It is perfectly plausible-they met in the Prancing Pony, and when Frodo and Sam and Merry and Pippin were there, the "squint eyed southerner" from the book (not sure if he was ever named) was discovered by Aragorn later on to have been spying on them along with Bill Ferny while they were there. So it is possible that someone of a less than savory nature eavesdropped on their conversation and somehow got the message to the orcs that "hey, you know that guy that you've been looking for for decades? He's about to go waltzing straight toward you, so hold off the invasion of a mountain hall but rather let him walk to you and attack his teensy company in the middle of nowhere where you are far away from the rangers and men who would kill orcs like you"

I have a feeling that from Bree on to the west it was far too populous (plus the servants of Sauron didn't appreciate water all that much and there were also too many rivers in the way) for the orcs to travel across to get Thorin-they would have died very quickly long before ever reaching the Blue Mountains.
 
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