The "Questions, questions that need answering!" thread Spoilers from those who have seen the movie - 3.0 continued!

The effect is the same. Of course there is no Eye and no black speech, because Sauron is way too weak, but the fading of the colors and the "wavy distortion" are there. So same ring, same effect [:)]
 
...you gave a very specific reference to the worst scene in the movie, which implies to me that one particular scene stands out as being bad. Would you be happy to give us more details about it? Is its poor quality down to immature humour, or inadequate CGI, or bad acting, or...? Did it push you out of Middle Earth at all?

[size 2]It was poor quality [size 2]AND immature humour AND inadequate [size 2]godawful CGI. There was no acting in the scene. To be hon[size 2]est it [size 2]was true to the main character [size 2]involved but was so poorly do[size 2]ne and it diminished a specific menace. It didn't took me out of Middle Earth because it's a short scene and [size 2]I was alr[size 2]eady so fully imersed. And I am not that kind of person anyway. There are things in [size 2]LotrR that I can not stand anymore, but I live[size 2] with that.[/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size]

I'm also interested in the moon runes. Do you remember if they translated them as "Stand by the grey stone when the thrush knocks, and the setting sun with the last light of Durin's Day will shine upon the key-hole" as in the book, or if the riddle has been altered at all?

Yes I can say it is that word for word.
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Sorry if this was asked before but how does Bilbo's finding the one ring in The Hobbit compare with the Fellowships prolog version. Any preferences to which one is better?
 
Is the iconic "In a hole in the ground, there lived a hobbit..." included in any way in the movie? [:)]
 
Gandalf exploring Dol Guldur......present in this movie?

sorry if this was already answered elsewhere, i'm trying to avoid a ton of spoilers but was just curious if we still see Gandalf encountering Thorin's father in the dungeons of the Necromancer? i heard a lot of the stuff in the trailers didn't make it in the movie.

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1.) We already know from viewers that we'll see a hint of the Necromancer and also a Nazgûl attacking Radagast. But are there other enemies in Dol Guldur when Radagast visits it?


2.) Are the spiders attacking Rhosgobel servants of Sauron or do they appear as independent creatures? Is their attack perhaps a reaction to Radagasts investigation in Dol Guldur?


3.) Are there any hints of a connection between Azog and Sauron? (Just YES or NO)


4.) Any hints that Radagast identifies this black shadow in Dol Guldur/Necromancer as Sauron?


5.) Is the name "Necromancer" used by someone? Radagast, Saruman, Galadriel, Gandalf or Elrond?
 
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Riddles in the dark is one of the best scenes in the Hobbit,
If not the best.
At the oscars this year we will see a few clips from these scene...
But to compare the two is unfair.
In FotR it is just part of an expositionnal prologue.
They had to be short and effective.
In the Hobbit the tension is built slowly, there is a lot of creepiness, especially the way Gollum loose the ring in the first place.
Or more acurately the reason behind it.

Oh and in the Hobbit, Bilbo sees Gollum before he takes the ring, so one could says he knows to whom it belongs right away...
 
What's your opinion about the new warg designs? In the trailers they look pretty "fake" in my opinion... Did that change in the final cut of the movie?
 
I find the design much much better than in TT.
The fact that they look more like wolves is not only great when you consider the book, but there is also a massive presence of animals in the Hobbit, much more than in LotR as a whole. So they look like hellish wolves and not like beasts from hell, if that makes sens...

But the execution, the special effects, the CGI, call it like you want, is...I don't want to be harsh, but the best shots look ok, and most of the shots are atrocious, seriously.
And I think it is due mainly to only one weakness. The integration.

WETA can not make them run in an actual ground in a believable way.
In the extended clip they are quite good, because they are mainly in close up. But in wide shots in broad daylight it is as bad if not worse than in TT.

The night scene is a bit better, but then again It is like one group of digital artists farmed the wargs and an other one the riders...it doesn't match.
And one character seemed to be put there in the last minute, like the Troll vs Aragorn at the gates of Mordor.
 
It was poor quality AND immature humour AND inadequate godawful CGI. There was no acting in the scene. To be honest it was true to the main character involved but was so poorly done and it diminished a specific menace. It didn't took me out of Middle Earth because it's a short scene and I was already so fully imersed. And I am not that kind of person anyway. There are things in LotrR that I can not stand anymore, but I live with that.
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Wow, was it that bad? I have a feeling it is somewhere near the end, with the wargs? For some reason, they don't seem all that realistic to me- I can appreciate fantasy design but poor quality CGI is a killer. I'm really intrigued to know: which character was involved in that scene?

Another question, if you don't mind... You said another bad scene involved Radagast as the protagonist. Was this also a case of poor CGI? Could you perhaps elaborate on what happens in the scene itself?
 
lots of answers :)

1.) We already know from viewers that we'll see a hint of the Necromancer and also a Nazgûl attacking Radagast. But are there other enemies in Dol Guldur when Radagast visits it?

[size 2]I can tell[size 2] for certain that it was a Nazgûl..I wou[size 2]ld say at least it was a wr[size 2]ight. So a wright[size 2], the Necormancer, and that is it. Nothing else, oh yes there [size 2]were bats pursuing Radagast as he fle[size 2]w from Dol Guldur, I almost forgot about it :)[/size][/size][/size][/size][/size]


2.) Are the spiders attacking Rhosgobel servants of Sauron or do they appear as independent creatures? Is their attack perhaps a reaction to Radagasts investigation in Dol Guldur?

The attack is set befor the investigations, and Radagast [size 2]think they are spawns of Ungoliant and are tied to Dol Guldur.[/size]

3.) Are there any hints of a connection between Azog and Sauron? (Just YES or NO)

No

4.) Any hints that Radagast identifies this black shadow in Dol Guldur/Necromancer as Sauron?
Not Radagast...
5.) Is the name "Necromancer" used by someone? Radagast, Saruman, Galadriel, Gandalf or Elrond?

 Radagast says someting like "it calls himself the Necromancer"

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