GDT does not plan on mimicking Peter Jackson...

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He told Maxim Magazine...

If I thought it was about following (Peter Jackson), I wouldn't be doing it this way.

It's a matter of raising on it. I think The Hobbit has a peculiar spirit in relation to not only the trilogy, but also to Tolkien's work.

It'll have respect for what's been done, but also its own individuality.
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I don't mind him putting his own stamp on it... I just hope he doesn't stray too far from Jackson's version.
 
But i think with PJ and i presume most of his original team working on it in some way it should be ok. I hope.Fingers crossed. [unsure]
 
to flow with the LoTR movies in it's feel, but I think GDT wants it to stand in it's own right, so it's not just seen as a prequel to LoTR. So yeah, I think it can be different, while, at the same time keeping the same flow as the trilogy. Just not necessarily the same tone or structure.
 
...GDT is too original and unique to simply copy someone else's style, especially at this point in his career. However, from what I've read, he wants the first film to stand apart style-wise, but the second film will need to look and feel a little more like PJ's in order to flow smoothly into LOTR. Trying to maintain a balance will be tricky.
 
he spoke of these two movies as part of the 5 movie set. That means continuity to LotR. I hope he sticks to that. Raise the bar with stuff that hasn't been seen yet (Mirkwood, Smaug, Thranduil's Halls, Laketown etc.). But keep the continuity to the exisitng parts of Middle-earth already touched on.

I know it's a difficult position for him to be in. He needs to make his own visual Middle-earth mark. I believe PJ was also in a difficult position when LotR got such critical acclaim--it would be a pointless and joyless endeavour for him to compete (or even continue) with what he already done. But ultimately, it's the fans that should matter--these movies will endur and be loved beyond the lifespan of GdT, PJ, New Line or anybody because of the world they are set in, and it should be a world in which everything holds together.
 
He'd never manage to get it 100% right anyway. No one could. I don't think even PJ could match the style of LOTR 100%. So why not make a fabulous movie without worrying over what's been done before?

I can't imagine he'll stray too far, though. GdT knows a little something about avoiding fan riots, I think.
 
about 'no news' news?

This looks like another bit of 'no news' news. He's just restating someting that PJ himself talked about in the online chat:


Peter Jackson: Having directed the LOTR Trilogy, I really felt that I put my heart and soul into dramatising this world and story, only a few years ago. The idea of going back in and essentially competing against my own movies, seemed to be an unsatsifying way to spend the next 5 years. However, I love Tolkien and care deeply about the movies we made. I couldn't bear the idea of somebody else making them without our involvement. Being a writer and producer is the perfect way for me to work here. Guillermo has the ultimate responsibility of directing, and for him it's easier to make these movies feel different, simply because he's not me, and he therefore has an original vision, with new ideas to offer.

Believe me, I thought long and hard about this, and what we're doing here will result in better movies, I promise you. And that's all that counts!​

When GDT talks about "raising on it", I think he means exactly what PJ is talking about here - The Hobbit has to "compete" with LotR by raising the bar, bringing a new vision that works with LotR but doesn't just repeat what's already been done.

Of course, every magazine he talks to has to find its own hook, to sell its story. But GDT isn't really saying anything he hasn't already said to us before.
 
Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings Trilogy 2 and I think if anyone is expecting that, they will be disappointed. GDT is not a clone of Peter Jackson. The movie will be different as it well should be. I really think as others have said this is no news. If anything, I want a different movie, since I want to see GDT's vision of Middle Earth. Though the Hobbit IS different from LOTR, but I want some of the elements the same (Bag End, The Shire, the Trollshalls, Rivendell etc.).
 
I was about to post something similar [;)]

Movies have changed over those years - as short a time as its been - and LOTR really was a new benchmark, which now seems to have been caught up somewhat by other films in some ways - so as advanced as it was, today it is not the same film - so Im confident that GdT knows what he is doing and how he is going to put this together visually ... but we still have PJ the Wizard around and his extraordinary team - so I dont see it de-railing at any stage. And as Patty mentioned the continuity should hold it together nicely and move it seemlessly into the trilogy.
 
As with the books, Hobbit the movie should be different from LOTR. Movie 2 will, under PJ's direction, be more like LOTR.

I don't see Hobbit as competition, but more as an intro to cinema's Middle earth.
 
Apparently I got things mixed up and Del Toro is directing both of these movies, not just Hobbit.

That should make things more interesting...
 
The movie will be different as it well should be. I really think as others have said this is no news. If anything, I want a different movie, since I want to see GDT's vision of Middle Earth. Though the Hobbit IS different from LOTR, but I want some of the elements the same (Bag End, The Shire, the Trollshalls, Rivendell etc.).
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I totally agree with you. It would be very disappointing to see different locations/sets than we already saw in the LOTR.
I expect Rivendell and the above mentioned places as well as Minas Tirith and Rohan (in the second film) to be the exact same. Otherwise, how could it be a 5 movie set?!
 
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I am fairly certain that the major things from the original films, like the beloved Rivendell and Shire set, will be essentially unchanged. Perhaps expanded, perhaps not, but essentially unchanged. Other things like the look of the wargs, (and please God Gandalf's fire magic) will likely be altered and expanded upon to better fit the Hobbit story. Which is fine, and won't really disruput continuity because, unlike a major change in the structure of Rivendell, things like differnt warg breeds, and a wider display of what Gandalf can do in a pinch when he doesn't have to worry about saving his strength for the Demon Lord lurking around the corner of the next mountain chamber, can be easily explained into continuity.
 
I can't say I'm not worried... but it would be interesting in a way to see what Del Toro can accomplish something slightly different than what PJ did with the LOTR trilogy.
 
If GDT does not make the Hobbit his own and tries to make a Peter Jackson movie it will be a bad movie.
What if (The Gods Forbid) GDT makes a better movie than Peter would have? This is a possibility.
 
Anything that Guillermo brings to the screen in terms of the visuals we see, the script, story, effects, etc. But one thing is really starting to worry me, and it became a concern after I saw Hellboy 2 the second time.

The only thing I would ask of him is this:

He. Must. Slow. The. Heck. DOWN.

Aside from Shore's score, the one thing I LOVED about LOTR was something that some people hate. It was the slowed-down pace of the film, the long camera shots, esp the lingering close-ups on characters, you know, having to stare at someone's face for 5 seconds before they talk. This gave we viewers time to absorb not only the fantastic depth of the backgrounds, to examine the corners of the screen, to appreciate the beautiful costumes and sets, etc, but IMO this more than anything else took us back to the FEEL of Middle-earth, and added to the emotional power of the film. IMO, stylistically speaking, it was different than anything out there, with today's "zip, zip" MTV cutting, for zero attention spans.

This can be seen for a reason: the peoples of Middle-earth were bound to the rhythms of the earth, they lived by the rise of the sun and moon, and their lives were slower-paced. as ours were a hundred years ago. In being slowly drawn into this world and being forced to visually adapt to its slowed-down time-frame, we see what we in our harried, stressed-out lives have lost. Del Toro's style calls for much quicker cuts, and that suits all his other genre work, it even suits the Spanish Civil War duology, as war films set in the 20th century life had a much faster pace, though it was of course not yet like that of our 24/7 world. Even the Hellboy series, for the story being told, it suited it well, though I wish some scenes from the 1st film had been longer.

But Hellboy 2, which along with PL is his best film so far IMO, are both emotionally powerful films, and in HB2 he is approaching something different. But on 2nd viewing I found that the film's quick editing style REALLY began to irritate me, as scenes which were emotionally powerful, esp 2 scenes towards the end--one involving Liz and HB, and another not long after involving Abe and Nuala (I won't spoil it for those who haven't seen it) were cut short WAY too fast, and we did not have time to absorb them, we were on to something else that completely destroyed the mood and IMO ruined the scene.

Del Toro has his own editing style, of course; but I for one feel that Jackson's slowed-down pace was a great thing. I can't imagine Boromir's death to have been 4 sentences long...this is all just my opinion, of course.

Oh, and it goes without saying that I expect a 3-hr-long theatrical version. Warner's is famous for cutting to allow the most showings. If TH is being condensed into one film, there's a LOT to tell, actually.
 
Anything that Guillermo brings to the screen in terms of the visuals we see, the script, story, effects, etc. But one thing is really starting to worry me, and it became a concern after I saw Hellboy 2 the second time.

The only thing I would ask of him is this:

He. Must. Slow. The. Heck. DOWN.

Aside from Shore's score, the one thing I LOVED about LOTR was something that some people hate. It was the slowed-down pace of the film, the long camera shots, esp the lingering close-ups on characters, you know, having to stare at someone's face for 5 seconds before they talk. This gave we viewers time to absorb not only the fantastic depth of the backgrounds, to examine the corners of the screen, to appreciate the beautiful costumes and sets, etc, but IMO this more than anything else took us back to the FEEL of Middle-earth, and added to the emotional power of the film. IMO, stylistically speaking, it was different than anything out there, with today's "zip, zip" MTV cutting, for zero attention spans.

Del Toro has his own editing style, of course; but I for one feel that Jackson's slowed-down pace was a great thing. I can't imagine Boromir's death to have been 4 sentences long...this is all just my opinion, of course.

Oh, and it goes without saying that I expect a 3-hr-long theatrical version. Warner's is famous for cutting to allow the most showings. If TH is being condensed into one film, there's a LOT to tell, actually.
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Thats what I like about these films. The slowness and pacing gives enough time for the viewers to absorb what is going on in the picture and feel for the characters within the context of the story. Thats saying a lot. I'm hoping PJ will have a hand in the editing process too. I love the long camera shots and the moving camera .. its like your on a rollercoaster ride. hehe.

Im hoping the movie will be 3 hours plus an EE version too.
 
I agree wholeheartedly. The tone, style, pace and especially the "look" of the trilogy can't be overstated ......................... I'm hoping for a "PanBoyless" Hobbit from GDT. Paint the trim on the house a different color if you must - just don't tear it down and build a new one. [:)]
 
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