Discussion update: Shire and all things Hobbit.

Ethel Duath

Ethel Duath

Half-elven
It turns out I lost track and didn't realize no one took the "[size 2]Changes in the Shire from A Long-Expected Party to The Grey Havens” which could include Oliphaunt’s 'Bilbo’s worldview (Shire-view?) versus Frodo’s worldview from departure to homecoming to departure.” Does anyone want to take a whack at it?
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And then it looks like we're on break for a bit, until Elentari does the last post on our current topic. This one is "[size 2]Changes in the Shire from A Long-Expected Party to The Grey Havens” which could include Oliphaunt’s 'Bilbo’s worldview (Shire-view?) versus Frodo’s worldview from departure to homecoming to departure,”[/size]7. "Evolution of hobbits and how their seed of courage had been awakened: The growth of courage in the the 'Quest Hobbits,'" including Bilbo in the Hobbit and LOTR, and also Fredegar I think, with Elentari’s idea of Filght to the Ford as an essential part of the theme of bravery.'
 
I feel like all other discussions nibbled around this topic about Shire changes like mice nibbling the crust off bread. So have we covered it already, perhaps?

But I can also infer that there could be a more head-on discussion of Arcadian Shire that Frodo leaves behind to Dystopian Lotho/Sharkey Shire that he and the other meet when they come home. That to me is less about hobbit culture and more about how their culture was corrupted through tyranny and foreign occupation with a large dose of malice mixed in. Would we want to discuss the nature of dystopia assailing utopia?

Maybe we would talk instead (or also) about how resilient Shire culture was and wasn't (A: they capitulated easily, and B: they exploded like a volcano and gladly united under the right leadership to restore their way of life, and they bounced back with remarkable resilience).

So in short I wonder if the original topic is what we still want to discuss, or a modified one, and then modified how?
 
there's inevitably a lot of overlap.
But! I think your ideas cover perfectly what we haven't fully touched on yet.
How 'bout I turn it into a short post in the next couple of days, and see what we get? [:)]
 
Will try to browse previous threads in meantime. :) I already know which chapters i'm pulling from. Thanks for messaging me about the timing and being flexible!
 
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