Character Descriptions...

I thought, to fill the empty void of newslessness, we should just have a re-cap on each character try and pick out as much information as we can from every source we have. Let's really go into detail here...

Who's your favourite? Who's your least favourite? What do you like best? Who's closest to their book description? What changes have been made? Are they good? Bad? Do you notice anything no-one's mentioned? Anything and everything on your mind regarding the characters, let's hear it!

Just for reference, here's some of the descriptions we've had so far...

Balin and Dwalin: Dwarf Lords in their own right, Balin and Dwalin are close relatives of Thorin. Beyond this, these brothers are two of his most loyal and trusted friends. An old warrior, Balin has lived through hard times and fought many battles, yet he harbors doubts about the wisdom of the Quest to retake the Lonely Mountain. Dwalin has no such forebodings – his belief in Thorin’s leadership is unshakeable. A powerful and bruising fighter, with a natural tendency to distrust anyone who is not a Dwarf, particularly anyone who might be an Elf, Dwalin is not someone to cross lightly.

Bifur, Bofur and Bombur: While most of the Company of Thorin Oakensheild is related to the royal and noble line of Durin, Bofur, his brother Bombur and their cousin Bifur most definitely are … not. Born and bred in the West , descendants of coal miners and iron workers, they have joined the Quest for the Lonely Mountain partly to seek their fortune and partly because they were told the beer was free

Dori, Ori and Nori: These three brothers, all sons of the same mother, could not be more different from each other. Dori, the oldest, spends much of his time watching out for Ori, the youngest; making sure he’s not caught a chill or got himself killed by Wargs or Goblins. Nobody quite knows what Nori gets up to most of the time, except that it’s guaranteed to be dodgy and quite probably, illegal. Dori, Nori and Ori are intensely loyal to each other – and whilst they are perfectly happy fighting amongst themselves, woe-betide anyone who means harm to one of these brothers.

Fili and Kili: Two Dwarf brothers, nephews to Thorin Oakensheild, the legendary Dwarf Lord who is heir to the Kingdom of Erebor. Fili and Kili are of noble lineage, not that you would necessarily know it from their relaxed demeanor. Fili being the elder of the two (Fili is probably fair haired, but this is not essential.) They are both good- looking, strong and expert fighters having been trained with weapons as from a young age.. Kili is more carefree and reckless.

Two of the youngest Dwarves, Fili and Kili have been born into the royal line of Durin and raised under the stern guardianship of their uncle,Thorin Oakensheild. Neither has ever travelled far, nor ever seen the fabled Dwarf City of Erebor. For both, the journey to the Lonely Mountain represents adventure and excitement. Skilled fighters, both brothers set off on their adventure armed with the invincible courage of youth, neither being able to imagine the fate which lies before them.

Oin and Gloin: A dwarf of the line of Durin. Gloin is related to the more noble Family of Thorin Oakenshield, being a distant cousin. Of all the Company of Dwarves who set out on the Quest to The Lonely Mountain Gloin is the most outspoken, opinionated and is not afraid to challenge authority. He has a tendency to be something of a gloom merchant, but despite this dourness, Gloin is also strong and brave and loyal – and ultimately a lovable and endearing character. Well known to audiences as the father of Gimli.

Distant cousins of Thorin Oakenshield, these two doughty, Northern Dwarves join the Company out of a sense of loyalty to their kin, and also because they have a substantial sum of money invested in the venture. Along with Bombur, Gloin is the only other married Dwarf in the Company (there being a shortage of female dwarves in general). His wife is an acclaimed beauty with a particularly fine beard. Gloin is the proud father of a young son, Gimli, who will go on to become part of the famous Fellowship of the Ring.

Thorin Oakenshield: Heir to the Dwarf Kingdom of Erebor, Thorin Oakensheild was forced to lead his people far away from their homelands into exile in the Blue Mountains. Powerfully built and a legendary fighter, Thorin has led a tough and dangerous life and it shows on his face. He is sharp eyed and sharp tongued, proud in his bearing and un-trusting of those he does not know. But Thorin is also capable of intense loyalty, immense courage and surprising gentleness and humour.

As a young Dwarf prince, Thorin witnessed the destruction and terror wrought when a great fire-breathing Dragon attacked the Dwarf Kingdom of Erebor. After slaughtering many of Thorin’s kin, the great serpent, Smaug, entered The Lonely Mountain and took possession of its vast store of gold and jewels. No-one came to the aid of the surviving Dwarves, and thus, a once proud and noble race was forced into exile. Through long years of hardship, Thorin grew to be a strong and fearless fighter and revered leader. In his heart a fierce desire grew; a desire to reclaim his homeland and destroy the beast that had brought such misery upon his people. So when fate offers him an unusual ally, he seizes the chance for revenge.

Bilbo Baggins: A well-to-do, respectable Hobbit…. Although he doesn’t realize it himself, Bilbo has a good deal of courage; he can be practical and resilient. He has a good sense of humour, and is able to appreciate the ridiculous. He is very quick on the uptake and is well read having been encouraged to read widely by his mother. The most distinguishing characteristic about Bilbo is his humanity; he is empathetic with a big heart and generous spirit.

Drogo Baggins: Bilbo’s cousin, he has known Bilbo all his life and ends up becoming Frodo’s father. Drogo’s outgoing, friendly – likes his food and good ale and the companionship of others.. He is good looking, well liked and well known around The Shire and is a bit of a ladies man (in contrast to Bilbo.) He’s not interested in the outside world. In fact, he’s quite happy and content with his lot. He is naturally funny in that unintentional, Hobbity, English Village sort of way – someone who is immediately likable.

Primula Brandybuck: Primula is a bright, lively and pretty young Hobbit. She is considered to be ‘wayward’ and ‘not proper’. But PRIMULA doesn’t care. – Prone to letting words and thoughts tumble out of her mouth without pause, PRIMULA can also be acutely observant. Kind hearted with a loving nature, she is the type of person who can light up a room.

Radagast the Brown: One of the Istari… Like the other five Wizards, Radagast has taken the form of an old man. Somewhat scruffy and prone to wandering the wilds,. He is however a close friend of Gandalf the Grey who holds him in great affection and admires Radagast’s gentle spirit.. He has a cheery disposition and a twinkle in his eye; Radagast is eccentric, forgetful and easily distracted.

Smaug: Two hundred years earlier, the Dragon Smaug came down from the barren northern reaches and laid waste to the Dwarf Kingdom of Erebor. Sitting upon his pile of gold, he has grown to a truly immense size. Old and yet not old, his voice still carries the sense of a sharp and lethal mind. He is the most deadly creature in all Middle-earth – and he knows it. Sly, quick and ferociously intelligent Smaug is a dangerous opponent and not one to under-estimate. If he has weakness it is his unbridled greed and his arrogance. His voice is part of what gives him is power – his ability to seduce, persuade and flatter, even to display a degree of charm. But any sense of civility or consideration for others is utterly false. He is merciless and without empathy for any other living creature. He is a killer.

Itaril: this character is one the Silvan Elves. The Silvan Elves are seen as more earthy and practical. Shorter than other elves, she is still quick and lithe and physically adept, being able to fight with both sword and bow. Showing promise as a fighter at a young age, Itaril was chosen to train to become part of the Woodland King’s Guard. This is the only life she has ever expected to live, until she meets and secretly falls in love with a young elf lord.

Alfrid: The Master (of Lake Town)'s conniving civil servant.
 
To get the ball rolling, I noticed Ori seems to have a sling as a weapon... I assume, he's a lover not a fighter and will stay out of the way, and hurl rocks when the fighting starts... (Maybe he'll hit Bilbo in the head at some point??)
 
Please spare us and delete the Itaril character description - you can't make us go through that again. Also I'm pretty sure Drogo and Primula descriptions are not official.
 
The same sheet made reference to many things (Fili's beard doesn't have to be fair, Drogo's inclusion, a Sylvan elf included, Radagast's inclusion) that have later proven to be true... Anyway, I can't remove it because this site doesn't let you edit :(
 
And this *is* the board to discuss the Hobbit movies. Plus, it *is* a bit slow as far as movie news goes. So, good for Quacking Troll for posting something to discuss! Including a character that we know is in the movies (even if the name has been changed) in a discussion of the cast as a whole seems perfectly legitimate to me.

If you don't like the topic, simply move on or start one of your own. No need to rain on his parade. [tongue]
 
what rocks and slings can do! (Great Goliath Goblin?) [;)] You have a point, though, since it is a distance weapon.

Thanks for posting this![:)]
 
Graham McTavish as Dwalin, Aidan Turner as Kili, James Nesbitt as Bofur and Stephen Hunter as Bombur.
I also liked Rob Kazinsky as Fili, but I'm not so sure about Dean O'Gorman... He's smiling to much :P

I like the others too, every dwarf is played by a good actor, but those I mentioned are the best in my opinon... As far as I can tell before seeing them in action ;)
 
He's exceeded all my expectations of what Gimli's dad could look like and him wielding Gimli's axe is a great touch. Bombur was always my favourite in the book, I'm still getting used to PJ's vision of him. He looks so surreal...
 
Ori could always recite some dwarvish poetry in Khuzdul (any relation to Vogon poetry?!?).

[tongue]

I'm very pleased with the non-Hobbit work I've seen of many of the actors. All very talented and perfect for their parts.
 
I don't have any problem with O'Gorman's Fili smiling. He and Kili are both described as being generally cheerful in the book.
 
would Drogo and Primula prove to be inaccurate when the rest of the casting list has been right on the money?

Also, Itaril IS in the film...her name is now Tauriel.

BTW, good idea for a thread, OP! Here are the other character descriptions:

[THE MASTER OF LAKETOWN] He is the quintessential politician. He is clever and cunning and has survived for a long time in his comfortable position through a combination of exaggerated promises and fear mongering. He is used to being in command and having people follow his lead; but when push comes to shove, he will always put his own needs first. LEAD. AGE: 40-60.

[ALFRID] A civil servant, devoted to the MASTER largely out of self-interest. He is of indeterminate age - could be young, could be old. Despite being subservient he has his own agenda. Although he will take calculated risks - he is not a brave man. LEAD. AGE: 30-70. .

[ELF WARRIOR] An ELF LORD of RIVENDELL. Tall and good-looking, he is very athletic and comes from a noble family. Wry and dry, with a sharp sense of humour, when forced into battle however, he is deadly with both sword and bow. Like all his race, he is a master horseman. This role will require a wig and contact lenses to be worn. Some prosthetic make-up may be required. LEAD. AGE: 20-30.

As for the "Elf Warrior", supposedly all "major casting" is completed, meaning:

-The character is question is Bret McKenzie's Lindir
-He's in fact a "minor character"
-He's been written out entirely, OR was from an earlier version of the script
 
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though I don't have a problem with Dean O'Gorman's smiling, we've only seen him in a promo picture and two very brief glimpses on the 3rd vlog. And Gloin is very suitably Gimli-like.

But yeah Thorin and Kili and Fili are definitely the ones I'm most looking forward to. So much so that I'm trying to reduce my expectations lest K & F are reduced to a couple of sideshow clowns(I don't have any worries for Thorin because hello, head dwarf), I'd hate for it color my opinion of the movie as a whole if they chose to focus on some other dwarves more.

Graham McTavish as Dwalin, Aidan Turner as Kili, James Nesbitt as Bofur and Stephen Hunter as Bombur.
I also liked Rob Kazinsky as Fili, but I'm not so sure about Dean O'Gorman... He's smiling to much :P

I like the others too, every dwarf is played by a good actor, but those I mentioned are the best in my opinon... As far as I can tell before seeing them in action ;)
 
"Also, Itaril IS in the film...her name is now Tauriel"..

Says who...?

There sure is a lot of speculation being turned into fact on this boards, as of late.

As far as I know, we're going by a casting call that was posted in ea
rly 2009, before Guillermo left the production, and nearly a year before the film was green-lit. Yes, the Alfrid character survived, but how do we know "Itaril" didn't cease to exist, and they rewrote the part to become Tauriel? That doesn't mean it's the same character, it could have completely changed. Saoirse Ronan isn't going to be in the films (despite what the TORn cast list says). Nevertheless, it seems the opinion from fans seemed to drastically change about added female characters when Peter explained that she wouldn't be Legolas' love interest.

I just think in the 2 1/2 years+ since that casting call was posted, things have probably changed drastically.
 
how many invented major female Mirkwood elves are there in the films, do you think? [tongue]

Only one, most likely: "Itaril", who was going to be played by Something Ronan, who is now "Tauriel", played by Evangeline Lilly. The names are even almost identical.

Even if her function if the narrative has changed, she's still basically the same presence in the movies. And I agree, it's very weird how hysterical everyone got over "Itaril" while no one seems to particularity hate "Tauriel".
 
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After all, if they go for the Elf Warrior character as written, then it would seem to imply Elves from Rivendell show up at the Battle of Five Armies. So short of that, my guess is this is now Legolas.


And when I need character info, I just go to the Character pages in the Hobbit section of the website.

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/the-hobbit/characters/

Of course this is mostly book descriptions and therefore may have nothing to do with the films at all. [tongue]
 
It says Itaril falls in love with an "Elf Lord" and the Elf Warrior is described as an Elf Lord. I'd say it's a safe bet that Lindir and Tauriel will have a romantic entanglement. Why Lindir would be near Mirkwood is anyone's guess, though.
 
I noticed Bombur has something on his chin? Is it a scar? How do we think this happened? Cut while shaving, maybe he singed his beard off while cooking?
 
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