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Ithilien Rangers vs. Rohirrim(dismounted)
 

IRANGER1992
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Feb 19 2009, 2:45am

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I think that would be rather epic, considering they all seem to be skilled warriors. what do you think?


Woodyend
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Feb 19 2009, 6:29pm

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The Rangers win this easily because.... [In reply to] Can't Post

The Riders of Rohan have melded so thoroughly with their horses, their bowleggedness is a distinct disadvantage on the ground. Laugh

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Henoluin Elsilim
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Feb 25 2009, 8:17pm

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the Rangers would have it. The Ithilien Rangers are all skilled swordsmen AND archers, after all. They could just shoot the Rohirrim before they even got close. But then, some of those Rohirrim archers are pertty good too...

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SmeagoloftheStoors
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Feb 27 2009, 3:43am

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the equipment being used by both sides. The rangers would be using swords and bows primarily, and would be wearing lighter armor as infantry is prone to do. Now the Rohirrim use Lances and shields as the shock weapons from horseback and axes and swords as secondary melee weapons. They would also be more heavily armored. So I think the fairest comparison would be to look at how the English took to fighting the Scottish in the late 13th and early 14th C. In the beginning of the conflict the Scottish had the disadvantage of no heavy cavalry. They'd line up just to get mowed down by the Frankish charge tactics used by the English. Then the Scots took to employing pike walls and later what came to be called the "hedgehog" formations (smaller clusters of troops with pikes in all directions), after the English learned how to bust through the wall formations with cavalry by thinning the lines with their infamous longbows. So what this cluster formation did was effectively negate the effect of the cavalry. So the English knights took to dismounting and using their lances to form a pike wall (the Scots had little to no heavy cav.), and their heavy shields to deflect the volleys of arrows. They would then use more aimed (as opposed to the meshing tactics used earlier) archery volleys to break up the hedgehogs and force the Scots to either attack or flee. Then the heavy armor that would have wore them down in a charge on foot combined with their lance wall and heavy shield wall behind (or sometimes meshed in with) took the Scots down to just a few rabble by time they hit melee range. From there it was just a matter of clean up duty for the well rested and overly well equipped English.
Now the Rohirrim used horse archery bows and not long bows, but based on the styles depicted in the films (the books give little info on these types of details) they seem to be using Asian style composite bows which although they are shorter for increased agility, have just about as much punch as a long bow. So if the Rohirrim used simillar tactics and stayed on the defence, the Rangers would be all wiped up.

PS: Sorry about the history lesson, and to all of you fans of Braveheart. Sorry for the disillusionment, but Robert D'Brus used English tactics to win Scotch independence, and then at a huge loss of life.

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SmeagoloftheStoors
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Mar 19 2009, 7:59pm

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Dagonet
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Apr 19 2009, 2:30am

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You can't kill topics! Wink And no matter what the odds my vote goes to the Rangers.

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AncalagontheBlack
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Jul 1 2013, 1:42pm

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