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Nov 17 2010, 4:27pm
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Gandalf vs Shelob
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In the alternate universe where Gandalf goes with Frodo and Sam...who would win this one ?
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Earl
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Nov 17 2010, 6:07pm
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... for the following reasons:
1. He's a Maia. Shelob isn't.
2. Following from 1 above, he could defeat a Balrog, a Maia, so a "creature", however monstrous, shouldn't be too much of a challenge.
3. Shelob was defeated by Sam, someone probably half Shelob's size, and one unaccustomed to fighting/weilding a sword. In contrast, Gandalf wouldn't find Shelob as big as Sam did, and additionally, he was a much more hardened fighter than Sam.
I wager Gandalf would be able to fight off Shelob (if not kill her altogether) without much damage to himself... certainly not as much damage as fighting the Balrog did him.
Just my thoughts though 
(This post was edited by Earl on Nov 17 2010, 6:08pm)
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Ossiriand
Nov 18 2010, 5:43pm
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So many are still waiting for their new beginning. Their birth by sleep. Even me, and even you.
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Darkstone
Elvenhome
Nov 18 2010, 9:50pm
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Otherwise Gandalf.
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I met a Balrog on the stair.
He had some wings that weren't there.
They weren't there again today.
I wish he would just fly away.
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Kangi Ska
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Nov 19 2010, 12:39am
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Kangi Ska Resident Trickster & Wicked White Crebain
New Zealand is Middle-earth & today life is good.
At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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Ataahua
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Nov 19 2010, 2:16am
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Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
Ataahua's stories
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macfalk
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Nov 23 2010, 6:17pm
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The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.
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Finrod Felagund 5
Lindon
Nov 23 2010, 7:21pm
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In that alternate universe, there would probably be no actual fight because Gandalf's coming with Frodo and Sam would have made it almost impossible to get into Mordor without Sauron knowing about it. Sauron and his forces always seemed to keep an eye on Gandalf and what he was up to, which is why Gandalf and Aragorn (another who Sauron was worried about) stuck together and feigned to attack the Black Gates. The reason for the success of Frodo and Sam was their anonymity, which Gandalf speaks of many times. It would be very hard to sneak in with Gandalf considering that he was the second most powerful being in Middle-earth and he had one of the three elven rings. Since Sauron never touched those rings he couldn't ever be sure who had them, but I figure he had a pretty good idea. As it was Frodo and Sam only just succeeded, and even that never would have happened without Gollum. So while Gandalf, either Grey or White, could in my opinion defeat Shelob with relative ease if it were just the two of them, I believe Gandalf being along for the journey with Sam and Frodo would have made it nearly impossible to destroy the Ring and defeat Sauron.
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Eruedraith
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Dec 6 2010, 3:40am
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Breaking my stalker's silence to say this...
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Gandalf, no problem. Gandalf was able to face down a freaking Balrog, even if it was at the cost of his own life. I'm fairly sure that he could take down Ms. Spider down with few problems.
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Donry
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Dec 11 2010, 3:38am
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Not even close! Gandalf torches the big mean spidey.....sizzle, sizzle...bye-bye!
What's the matter, James? No glib remark? No pithy comeback?"
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Mithlond
Feb 26 2011, 8:49am
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If Sam could beat Shelob, do you think Gandalf would lose?
The Ultimate Tolkien Trivia Quiz: http://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school/story.php?title=so-you-want-to-be-tolkien-geek
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