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Junesong
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May 2 2023, 2:13pm
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Writer's Strike
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Anyone know if this will affect ROP season 2?
Do we know how far along season 2's writing is? Was it already done? Are they already filming?
"So which story do you prefer?"
"The one with the tiger. That's the better story."
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jlj93byu
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May 2 2023, 3:14pm
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Anyone know if this will affect ROP season 2? Do we know how far along season 2's writing is? Was it already done? Are they already filming?
We do know it started filming last October, and while I haven't seen anything confirming the progression of the writing, it seems likely that when they started filming, most of the season had been scripted, and certainly mapped out, so perhaps at this point they'd be down to writing the final episodes, if they're not done already.
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Archestratie
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May 3 2023, 6:15pm
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Anyone know if this will affect ROP season 2? Do we know how far along season 2's writing is? Was it already done? Are they already filming? We do know it started filming last October, and while I haven't seen anything confirming the progression of the writing, it seems likely that when they started filming, most of the season had been scripted, and certainly mapped out, so perhaps at this point they'd be down to writing the final episodes, if they're not done already.
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DGHCaretaker
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May 4 2023, 1:11am
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So, if RoP follows the same pattern as other shows, the scripts are essentially finished. Any changes from here would be made by the actors and directors in the act of filming. In previous writers strikes, the script is essentially frozen and said actors and directors have not changed the script out of respect for the writers. Perhaps also because it would invoke a writing credit, which would preclude the script change.
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cats16
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May 4 2023, 8:12pm
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Most shows are not completely script locked on a season basis before production starts - and even at that, there are constant adjustments that occur on set or between filming blocks, even if it's by the showrunner if the production hasn't afforded other writers the ability to be on set. Each production is sort of its own trainwreck that's carefully and chaotically orchestrated, some better than others. There are a lot of well-documented cases in which shows/films of 2007 were negatively impacted creatively as a result of not having writers available during the 2007-2008 strike.
As this article mentions, RoP is certainly affected and will not have its showrunners/writers available during the duration of the strike.
There's also the potential of the DGA and/or SAG having their own work stoppages due to strikes this summer - and in reality, the WGA generally sees actors/directors "touching up" their material as scab-like behavior, which can obviously in reality be handled differently person-to-person and set-to-set (and is made more complicated by international shoots) - my main point is that these things are complicated and are not as neat as studio press releases might suggest. Everyone is calling their agents/lawyers and are trying to find out what they can/can't do as well as what they should/shouldn't do - but all US writers are pencils down.
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Otaku-sempai
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May 4 2023, 8:54pm
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My understanding is that Payne and McKay are both WGA members, which puts them in an awkward position. They both should be on strike as well. If they cross the picket line (either literally or metaphorically) they would lose their WGA memberships.
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cats16
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May 4 2023, 9:44pm
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This applies to shows that are ready to premiere too, so not even limited to being in production haha - i.e. showrunners with a new season of TV about to premiere aren't allowed to do any publicity for said project. But yes, agreed with what you said.
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Owlyross
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May 5 2023, 9:48am
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I read they had 19 days of filming left
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Obviously this doesn't include any pick ups, reshoots or any of the post production work, but they are a lot further along than we may have thought. The scripts will be locked now, but it could affect the post production if the showrunners aren't available.
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Junesong
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May 5 2023, 12:23pm
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Could the silver lining be... COVID?
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My guess is that due to the COVID pandemic causing nearly two and a half years of projects dying on the vine, stalled IP momentum and the hemorrhage of billions of dollars of lost revenue - the writers will be in a pretty good bargaining position.
For example - the last prolonged strike was what 2007/2008 or something and it went on for forever and Hollywood felt the sting. I don't think they can afford a huge pause like that so soon after the pandemic.
I'm hoping and expecting it to resolve quicker than usual.
But never underestimate the power of greed.
"So which story do you prefer?"
"The one with the tiger. That's the better story."
"Thank you. And so it goes with God."
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Otaku-sempai
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May 5 2023, 1:42pm
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Rings of Power Season 2 Will Shoot Without Showrunners During the Writers Strike
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Mira Jacobs reports for CBR.com:
Although showrunners J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay are unable to be on the set of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power during the Writers Guild of America strike, production on the series will continue.
As reported by Variety, Prime Video's Tolkien-inspired series Rings of Power has 19 days of shooting left on its second season, and will carry on in the absence of Payne and McKay. According to the rules of the WGA strike, while it's in effect, writer-producers may not participate in their usual creative capacity, so non-writing executive producers, directors and crew will take over these duties on the set. These producers and directors include Charlotte Brändström, Sanaa Hamri, Louise Hooper and Lindsey Weber.
Payne and McKay reportedly planned ahead for the possibility of a writers strike, working with the production team to allow an easier transition in the case that they weren't able to be present.
Source: https://www.cbr.com/...ting-writers-strike/
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