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Kangi Ska
Gondolin
Feb 14 2022, 4:11pm
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I saw the teaser for "Rings of Power" to be released this fall? I thought it looked like an ad for a video game. What do you think? KS
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InTheChair
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Feb 14 2022, 5:32pm
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The first shot of the ship sailing into harbour
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Looked unfortunate. Almost reminded me of a cartoon for a second, though the impression get a little better once the whole panorama of that Numenorean coastal city (Which one?) is revealed.
I think they may improve some of the effects before final release though.
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Estel78
Dor-Lomin
Feb 14 2022, 8:42pm
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Looks blockbuster movie quality
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One can tell it's the most expensive TV show of all time. Looks nothing like a video game.
You get the CGI complaints with every movie nowadays, no matter how good it is. Hell, people complained about the CGI in the title reveal a while back even though that was real hehe...
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Narvi
Menegroth
Feb 15 2022, 1:07am
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But so were many that teased Jackson's original trilogy. Try explaining the plot of the Second Age to a newbie in less than a minute without giving away any spoilers...
I agree with your evaluation of the CGI, but I assume we'll see a higher-quality rendering in the finished product.
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Lindele
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Feb 15 2022, 1:43am
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I’m always gonna prefer real over CGI, but it’s never enough. No matter how good it is. This teaser looked as good as any major Marvel movie or anything with extensive CGI, but it’s never enough.
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The Dude
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Feb 15 2022, 7:14pm
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Video game might be a little bit harsh, but yeah, fairly bland CGI.
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Someone positively brought up "Marvel" films in this thread, but the Marvel films should rather serve as a warning of how most CGI nowadays looks competent but equally bland, over-stuffed, and artless.
Yes it it true, one now rarely encounters a film like "The Mummy Returns", in which the CGI looks truly laughable and the green-screen can almost be touched by the viewer. But on the other hand, and maybe even worse, most filmmakers in 2022 have forgotten (or ever learned) how to organically integrate CGI into their film, e.g., how to move a camera in CGI environments to make it appear natural, how to place actors into a CGI scene without immediately giving away the actors were filmed in a tiny studio, etc.
In that sense at least, the video-game analogy contains a kernel of truth: for what often seems so video-game-ish in modern CGI films is not so much the screenshot (i.e., the rendered image itself) but the way the whole CGI scene is shot. That is why the Battle of the Five Armies looked so much worse than The Battle of the Hornburg, and not because the 80-hour-work-week guys at WETA Digital all ran out of coffee. That is why last year's Dune had far superior CGI than all the Marvel shlock in recent years.
I would also point to the fact that the mediocre CGI in the Amazon trailer has not just been noticed by purist naysayers but also by unrelated journalists. https://www.independent.co.uk/...railer-b2015466.html
The overall render quality of the CGI probably will still improve in the coming months. That is certain. It remains doubtful, however, if the show-runners and directors understand how to integrate CGI in an artful fashion or if we will get a repeat of the Hobbit trilogy. The first teaser does not bode well.
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Owain
Dor-Lomin
Feb 18 2022, 3:22am
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I appreciate the art of computer generated imagery.
3D modeling, texturing, lighting, compositing. From characters, to buildings, landscapes... whatever.
But it just seems like it is the default tool, now.
Obviously the pandemic has been a factor over the last couple of years. And of course, there are scenarios where the script calls for things that just aren't practical.
But that's also kind of a misnomer. There are all kinds of things that can be shot practically, with perspective and great compositing that use real world physics, textures, environmental elements and of course people... that can create a real rendering of things that don't happen.
I love computer generated imagery when it is used as a support tool. Often now, there are shots that audiences are completely unaware are completely digital. I'm fine that. If you can pull the trick off... do it.
But to your point Kangi, the CG is so obvious.
It's great when it is used well and is convincing, meaning you can't tell the difference... but that's not the case here.
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Owain
Dor-Lomin
Feb 18 2022, 3:24am
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Haha. I think you're seeing through rose colored glasses perhaps?
So many shots in this trailer are unmistakably fake.
That being said, there is such a thing as really high quality CG that tricks the audience and they don't know they are watching it.
But that's not the case here.
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QuackingTroll
Doriath
Feb 18 2022, 4:43pm
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Remember the CGI is not finished
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This happens with all early teaser trailers, people say “bad cgi” then a trailer will come out closer to release and looks much better.
For example: https://youtu.be/qi94JM3zkxk
Not saying the movie won’t have any problems with cgi, just one should never judge that aspect from early trailers.
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