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Darth Crumb
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Dec 11 2015, 2:50pm
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characters and cliffs
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After watching all 6 movies in a row you really notice how often Peter Jackson goes for the "oh no he's gone off a cliff!" cheap thrill.
Bilbo hanging after the rock giant fight, the dwarves in the trees, Tauriel over the cliff, Gandalf on the bridge (fair enough, that's in the book), Frodo on the rope, Aragorn off the cliff, Gollum down the cliff, and Frodo over the lava. Might have missed some.
Need more railings in Middle Earth.
Honourary mention to "oh no Sam will drown!" in Fellowship.
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smtfhw
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Dec 11 2015, 3:03pm
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You make a good point I think. There do seem to be an awful lot of places you can fall off...
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Darth Crumb
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Dec 11 2015, 3:07pm
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Seem pretty nonexistent in Erebor. If you tripped anywhere in there its a long way do
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Ataahua
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Dec 11 2015, 5:23pm
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PJ has a thing for ramping up anxiety with heights.
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Remember the dino chase scene along the collapsing cliff-top in King Kong? There's also the vertigious (probably not a word - vertigo-inducing) downward plunge of the camera from the top of Orthanc to the orc-pits below in FOTR.
I wonder if PJ is scared of heights? It'd be like him to build his fears into his movies.
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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Avandel
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Dec 11 2015, 5:45pm
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Camera angles and depth...hadn't thought about it, but all those LOL cliff hangers lead to something - Aragorn is see an approaching army, we see another side to Thorin....
That's one thing I never have problems with, PJ's use of space, environments, depth, shadow and light. And PJ's ability to freak you out with a shot :
I like spiders and they are beautiful, but when those jaws open...... 
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LoremIpsum
Menegroth
Dec 11 2015, 6:43pm
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I seem to remember watching him hanging of a cliff in his first film 'Bad Taste'
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where he played Derek. Must be a personal preference. ha! He mentioned in the documentary how disappointing it was that the cliff hanging scenes never look as scary as it would be in real life.
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Riven Delve
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Dec 11 2015, 7:07pm
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I wouldn't call them "cheap" thrills
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maybe just "thrills" would do.  My question is, why do the people hanging from cliffs always kick their legs?? That is the LAST thing I would do! 
“Tollers,” Lewis said to Tolkien, “there is too little of what we really like in stories. I am afraid we shall have to try and write some ourselves.”
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Kilidoescartwheels
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Dec 11 2015, 8:59pm
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"There's also the vertigious (probably not a word - vertigo-inducing) downward plunge of the camera from the top of Orthanc to the orc-pits below in FOTR."
ALWAYS one of my favorite scenes in that movie - yeah, just about gave me vertigo every time I watched it.
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Riven Delve
Dor-Lomin
Dec 11 2015, 9:18pm
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“Tollers,” Lewis said to Tolkien, “there is too little of what we really like in stories. I am afraid we shall have to try and write some ourselves.”
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OldestDaughter
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Dec 11 2015, 11:49pm
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When the hobbits were being chased by Farmer Maggot, they rolled down a steep hill!
"Keen, heart-piercing was her song as the song of the lark that rises from the gates of night and pours its voice among the dying stars, seeing the sun behind the walls of the world; and the song of Lúthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed."
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mae govannen
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Dec 12 2015, 10:04am
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What about Bard, and later Bain too?...
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Bard nearly falls off the edge of a roof when chased by Smaug over burning Laketown; then when both Bard and Bain are on that tower and Smaug's tail sweeps it down, Bain disappears for a moment, until Bard finds him hanging to the side (just like Sam found Frodo too at Mount Doom), and pulls him up again to relative safety...
But isn't it true that in all such conditions of considerable heights just near them, people are likely indeed to fall off them???  That's exactly why railings and parapets have been invented, but they are generally missing in natural surroundings... 
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
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mae govannen
Dor-Lomin
Dec 12 2015, 10:09am
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No, not "cheap"... and some people
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don't kick their legs at all: Frodo doesn't remaining strangely still. and so does Bain too, if I remember well...
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
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mae govannen
Dor-Lomin
Dec 12 2015, 10:14am
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...and Gangalf just jumping from it,
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apparently into the void, but soon is seen on the back of the great Eagle that had silently come for him...!
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
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Riven Delve
Dor-Lomin
Dec 12 2015, 12:15pm
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Clearly, these characters are the true "Wise"
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of Middle-earth.
“Tollers,” Lewis said to Tolkien, “there is too little of what we really like in stories. I am afraid we shall have to try and write some ourselves.”
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mae govannen
Dor-Lomin
Dec 12 2015, 1:20pm
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it could simply be just paralysis from fear, the only physical focus still remaining in them being their fingers holding on for dear life?...
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
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