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DainPig
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Oct 25 2015, 3:44am
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Why Bofur gets so much screen time?
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Look, I like Bofur. He is a funny character and his actor is great. But PJ love him so much. I think he have a great friendship with James Nesbitt.
Bofur is just another dwarf, like Nori or Oin, but for some reason he receives too screen time. Just watch AUJ. In BOTFA EE is the only dwarf who gains an extra point. Forget Dori or Gloin. Bofur is the guy...
What is special with Bofur???
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Otaku-sempai
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Oct 25 2015, 3:55am
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Nesbitt's Bofur is a friendly, out-going character. I think that is all the explanation that is needed.
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DainPig
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Oct 25 2015, 3:56am
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Mark Hadlow's Dori is also charismatic is not he?
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Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome
Oct 25 2015, 3:59am
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Not in the same way, I think. For one thing, Bofur seems to be closer to Bilbo's contemporary in age (at least outwardly).
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DainPig
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Oct 25 2015, 4:00am
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This is what I call Bofur's dictadorship. Everything is Bofur, he is a genius and blah blah...
Oh Jesus 
So many interesting characters. Why did not they develop more of Ori or Gloin. They are also cool. Nori is my favorite one and there few lines for him in BOTFA.
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LSF
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Oct 25 2015, 4:05am
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James nesbitt is a great friend of PJ, I would think it would be nori who would have gotten the attention, since PJ and Jed Brophy have been friends for 20+ years. PJ and Nesbitt only met when he auditioned for hobbit.
Whatever the reason, I'm not complaining, since bofur is my favorite 
Though I would've liked the others to also have had their individual hero moments in BOFA EE.
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Never_Underestimate_A_Dwarf
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Oct 25 2015, 4:06am
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I like his relationship with Bilbo (and his hat), but I agree there's too much of him. Let the other dwarves have a moment!
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MyWeeLadGimli
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Oct 25 2015, 4:07am
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I'm glad for every Dwarf that's getting more time
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Dwalin also gets a lot more screen time in the film than he did in the book.
But yeah, I would definitely have liked to see more of the rest of the Company, and I don't think Bofur's role would need to be reduced for that to work. I wouldn't mind the screentime of certain Elves being cut to accommodate, though.
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Mooseboy018
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Oct 25 2015, 4:28am
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I think it's just because they happened to pick Bofur to be one of the more prominent characters in the same way that Thorin, Balin, Kili and Dwalin are. There were always going to be a handful out of the 13 that had larger roles. It's just a real shame that the rest couldn't get more screentime. They didn't necessarily all have to be equal in "importance," but I think they had more than enough time to make sure every dwarf had a few lines and moments sprinkled throughout all three films. AUJ struck a pretty good balance, but as the story got bigger (perhaps too big) the focus got further and further away from the dwarves. I think PJ sort of lost sight of what made the dwarves so lovable in the first place.
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Dor-Lomin
Oct 25 2015, 7:57am
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Dor-Lomin
Oct 25 2015, 8:05am
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However they did a good job in the end
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Better than the book were some of the dwarves doesnt exist
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Snowghost77
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Oct 25 2015, 8:54am
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Though I always wished they had swapped Bofur's role with Gloin's in the films, seeing how Goin actually visited Bilbo afterwards. Always felt Gloin was going to be the one who really befriends Bilbo.
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Otaku-sempai
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Oct 25 2015, 2:06pm
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This is what I call Bofur's dictadorship. Everything is Bofur, he is a genius and blah blah...
Where is this coming from? The simple fact is that there is only so much screen-time and the Dwarves of the Company of Thorin cannot all get equal time. Yes, it is a shame that Dori's interactions with Bilbo in the book are cut from the films; and, I was also a bit disappointed that Bombur's moment with Bilbo while on watch was given to his brother instead. At least Fili and Kili were given a bit more to do, other Dwarves were given bits of business, and that Bofur was given a personality.
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Eleniel
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Oct 25 2015, 2:59pm
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I still think this had a lot to do with James Nesbitt being a higher profile actor than some of the other Dwarves...
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I think it's just because they happened to pick Bofur to be one of the more prominent characters in the same way that Thorin, Balin, Kili and Dwalin are. There were always going to be a handful out of the 13 that had larger roles. It's just a real shame that the rest couldn't get more screentime. They didn't necessarily all have to be equal in "importance," but I think they had more than enough time to make sure every dwarf had a few lines and moments sprinkled throughout all three films. AUJ struck a pretty good balance, but as the story got bigger (perhaps too big) the focus got further and further away from the dwarves. I think PJ sort of lost sight of what made the dwarves so lovable in the first place. I certainly think his contract would have required a certain amount of lines, at least!
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lonelymountainhermit
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Oct 25 2015, 3:12pm
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I'm pretty sure he was there to attract hipsters to go see the movies...with that hat,mustache and goatee its pretty obvious.
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CathrineB
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Oct 25 2015, 3:22pm
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I noticed that too and while I would have loved more of the other dwarves too (*coughfilicough*) I really do love Bofur so I can't complain.
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Avandel
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Oct 25 2015, 3:33pm
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And I think I vaguely remember James Nesbitt on the movie posters having higher billing. PJ & co. seemed to have worked to get James Nesbitt on board, and IMO there is nothing inconsistent with BOFA in that in AUJ, Bofur also has his own little scene with Bilbo.
But I am disappointed in not seeing more of Nori fight in battle - well, not to go down the slope again of wishing for a more general spread of the dwarves in battle , ore just more of them. A lot was crammed into that extra 20 minutes. And there are many - myself included - who don't even have the film yet, so haven't had time to let everything settle mentally even if we saw the preview.
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Dame Ioreth
Dor-Lomin
Oct 25 2015, 3:54pm
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Some actors are better at the whole contract thing than others and come in with a stronger hand. James Nesbitt's profile was higher than most except for Freeman and Cumberbatch of the actors coming in new to the franchise with The Hobbit. Thorin was the bigger part and that went to Richard Armitage, who had the closest exposure as far as being a recognizable actor. And it's just my impression (really *just* my impression) from interviews and watching the red carpet, but I get the feeling Nesbitt thinks very highly of himself too. I'm guessing those contract negotiations included a certain amount of guarantee of lines and character development.
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Dcole4
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Oct 25 2015, 5:38pm
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This is misguided. The problem isn't "too much" Bofur, it's more of "too few" moments of Dori, Ori, Nori, Gloin and Oin. I think one or two additional scenes would have helped. There was a scene shot in the counting room with Dori and Ori piling coins, and Gloin examining jewels. I think they should have added it back in.
As many have said before, this EE truly feels like it should have been the version in the cinemas. None of the scenes are arbitrary or slow or meandrous, they all inform the plot. I feel like the approach taken to the EEs on these films has been disappointing, leading to several poignant character moments, and entire subplots being left on the cutting room floor. It's not scraps either, these are the types of scenes the EE is made for. I'm thinking namely of the Thranduil / Company scene, and the scene with the dwarves exploring the ruins of Dale, and the numerous pieces we know were cut from BOTFA. It's understandable why these wouldn't be included in the theatrical cut, but it makes no sense to me why they wouldn't be included in the EE for serious fans. These are not duds, these are great looking scenes that add alot to the films for viewers. We get Eoywn's soup and naked dwarves bathing but we don't get Beorn's storyline in BOTFA. Baffling.
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adt100
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Oct 25 2015, 6:56pm
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Probably the fact he is a bigger name actor tbf. Certainly in the UK //
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Bofur's dictadorship
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