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Thorondil
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Mar 4 2008, 4:29pm
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First, let me say, that this is a gift to ALL Tolkien fans...and in the hands of Peter Jackson both the Hobbit and the 2nd film will stay essentially true to the words and intentions of JRR Tolkien...as for the content of the 2nd film, there is a TON of material to cover...I can easily see this film being at least 2 and half hours...think of the material that must be covered before the start of the LOTRs...
1. Arathorn is killed and Gilraen and Aragorn take up residence in Rivendell...there, Aragorn is raised as Elrond's own son as Estel...at 20 his lineage is explained, he sees Arwen and sets off into the wild...this should, and will, be the cornerstone of the new film...tying in Arwen as often as they can...their plight at Cerin Amroth will be worth the price of admission alone...
2. Aragorn's growth into becoming the greatest man upon Middle Earth take him to Rohan to help Theodon's father, Thengel...brilliant tie in to the LOTRs movies...then he helps/saves Gondor with his brilliant attack upon the quays of Umbar...the respect and love he earns from not only the soldiers of Gondor, but Denethor's father Ecthelion, earn Thorongil/Aragorn the eternal hate of Denethor...again, brilliant stuff...
3. Aragorn's relationship/friendship with Gandalf will also dominate this movie...their guard over the Shire whilst discussing the plans for the fate of Middle Earth is great stuff...their search for Gollum and his eventual capture will be important...which leads me to Gandalf and Gollum...
4. Gandalf will obviously also dominate this movie...as discussed his relationship with Aragorn, but also his ties to the White Council and the driving of Necromancer, Sauron, out of Dol Gulder...in fact, this will likely be the first major scene in the movie as it ties in the Hobbit, and prefaces the ultimate rise of Sauron in Mordor and the events in the LOTRs...there is great stuff here...the early suspicions of Saruman, the concerns of Elrond and Galadriel...brilliant stuff...if the filmmakers and screenwriters are truly clever, they will give Saruman a significant role, as he retreats to Isengard and begins his LUST for the ring, including looking into the Palantir and being caught by Sauron...by raising his own army in secret, and by searching the vales of the Anduin for any signs of the remains of Isildur and the one ring...again, brilliant stuff...as sad as it makes me to think of the distressing way the such a great man as Isildur died, it is powerful stuff thinking about Saruman finding his remains and the star of the Numenorians...
5. The Shire, Bilbo and Frodo...whilst the story is progressing checking in on the Shire with Bilbo and his adoption of Frodo will be compelling...also, this might be an appropriate place to tie in Balin's visit and the Dwarves of the Lonely Mountain...perhaps a young Gimli accompanying Balin???
6. I think the film will start with the fall of Dol Guldur, and Sauron fleeing to Mordor...then the decline of the White Council due to the actions and rebellion of Saruman...it will then piece together all the main characters and peoples through the acts and actions of Aragorn and Gandalf, while always building and building to emergence of a powerful Sauron in Mordor and setting the table for the beginnings of the LOTRs...
All in all, I truly believe it is a powerful story and one that should be told...in the hands of Peter Jackson it will remain true to the heart of Tolkien, as well as vital and vibrant...the adventures of Aragorn alone will make this a powerful film, and his relationship with Arwen, priceless...
Personally, I cannot wait for this movie and believe that it will be done very well!
Peace my friends...
All that is gold does not glitter...
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greendragon
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Mar 4 2008, 5:58pm
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hmm - well now you've got me excited for this second movie...
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Great ideas, Thorondil! (And welcome to TORn, btw - as this is the first time I've replied to a post of yours!) I confess I've always been in the 'as many ME movies as possible - so long as they're true to Tolkien and are good' camp, so it doesn't take much to convince me! But I think you've put together a good argument for the content of the 'link' movie. Now the question remaining in my mind is, how much of this is copyright which the film makers DON'T have, and how much can be blocked by the Tolkien estate? - who, I think, will block everything they possibly can...
'There are older and fouler things than orcs in the deep places of my fridge...'
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Doriath
Mar 4 2008, 6:32pm
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but as far as I can tell, all of that is from the appendices, and you could argue they were published in RotK and belong to it, and are included in the sold rights to LotR. I am no lawyer and have no knowledge of this sort of contract, but I'd expect that in this case, if the appendices are not explicitly excluded from the rights sale, they can be used for filming. And would they have done that, back in the 70's when they thought the whole thing unfilmable anyway? So I truly hope PJ is allowed to use the appendices - if the whole mess with NL folded into Warner and the TE lawsuit doesn't prevent him from filming at all.
I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.
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