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Gandalf the Green
Ossiriand
Oct 28 2015, 5:19pm
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this is a battle-focused EE, as if we haven't seen enough of that already and weren't in need of character moments for the dwarves, etc... I can only wonder why. Heard some great scenes had been cut. Shame. I did like the Dain vs Thranduil thing, though, that was really cool, but most other things included were pretty ridiculous (in a Hobbit trilogy-way). Did we really need more Legolas-hanging-from-a-bat? There were also barely any new Bilbo scenes... other than the one with Bofur, which was great, but I would've appreciated some more scenes like that. Are they planning something for a super extended edition or something?
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lonelymountainhermit
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Oct 28 2015, 5:55pm
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Legolas hanging from a bat is the best part of the book!
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TheOnlyOneAroundWithAnySense
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Oct 28 2015, 6:54pm
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The dwarvish character moments
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Were fused to the added battle moments, providing both at once.
"You see, there are still faint glimmers of civilization left in this barbaric slaughterhouse that was once known as humanity. Indeed that's what we provide in our own modest, humble, insignificant... oh, f*** it."
- The Grand Budapest Hotel
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DainPig
Mithlond
Oct 28 2015, 6:57pm
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are basically about Bofur, Bifur and Bombur. 
How aaaaaaaaaaaaaare you all???
The pig, the life, the bacon
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Smaug the iron
Mithlond
Oct 28 2015, 7:52pm
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Dwalin, Balin, Fili and Kili. They did also have new moments.
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DainPig
Mithlond
Oct 28 2015, 7:54pm
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but what about Dori, Oin and Gloin???
How aaaaaaaaaaaaaare you all???
The pig, the life, the bacon
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Smaug the iron
Mithlond
Oct 28 2015, 8:06pm
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When Bofur needs to get on the troll Nori and Gloin lower there shields so Bofur can get on the troll.
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DainPig
Mithlond
Oct 28 2015, 8:46pm
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But we do not see Gloin really killing orcs
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he is just helping bofur.
And Oin still without fight shots!!!
How aaaaaaaaaaaaaare you all???
The pig, the life, the bacon
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Gandalf the Green
Ossiriand
Oct 28 2015, 9:13pm
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Showing a few scenes of the dwarves doing stuff during the battle doesn't justify the overall lack of character moments for the dwarves to me. And I actually meant... quieter character moments, outside of battle. Turns out Bombur can actually talk, so why didn't he ever before, for example?
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DainPig
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Oct 28 2015, 9:18pm
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it was meant to be a special moment to Bombur. After 8 hours watching the trilogy, we finally get to see the silent fat guy speaking! Same for Bifur, the Crazy One.
How aaaaaaaaaaaaaare you all???
The pig, the life, the bacon
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Dor-Lomin
Oct 28 2015, 9:55pm
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I dont think is a bad thing. The movie gains a lot
The flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true
Survivor to the battle for the fifth trailer
Hobbit Cinema Marathon Hero
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TheOnlyOneAroundWithAnySense
Nargothrond
Oct 29 2015, 12:36am
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How many individual quiet character moments were there for all 13 dwarves
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In the novel?
"You see, there are still faint glimmers of civilization left in this barbaric slaughterhouse that was once known as humanity. Indeed that's what we provide in our own modest, humble, insignificant... oh, f*** it."
- The Grand Budapest Hotel
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TheOnlyOneAroundWithAnySense
Nargothrond
Oct 29 2015, 12:41am
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Going purely by the numbers, the movies have the book trumped in this way
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In reality, there's only one character that is actually represented less in the films: Beorn.
"You see, there are still faint glimmers of civilization left in this barbaric slaughterhouse that was once known as humanity. Indeed that's what we provide in our own modest, humble, insignificant... oh, f*** it."
- The Grand Budapest Hotel
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lionoferebor
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Oct 29 2015, 12:51am
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There is a 15 mins19 sec video montage of most of the new battle footage on YouTube. (I think the only sequence not included is the extended footage of Legolas and the bat). I will say one area the TE needed improvement was the final battle, but I do not feel it was in need of 15 min 19 sec of improvements. 
To be honest, I feel this final EE was not an actual EE, but rather it was the TE as PJ had intended it to be. Still - though there it's been mentioned numerous times - I'm skeptical if there will ever be a super extended edition. I hope there is, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Thrain II
Menegroth
Oct 29 2015, 12:56am
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Just 4 minutes for the rest of the movie. No wonder we didn't get so many great scenes that were filmed, and almost nothing new with Beorn. 
I knew this would happen from the moment they announced that EE will be only 20 minutes longer.
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lionoferebor
Nargothrond
Oct 29 2015, 1:57am
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and like I said that 15 mins 19 secs does not include every new (or extended) sequence added to the final battle. Come to think of it, I do not recall Beorn in the montage either.
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elentari3018
Nargothrond
Oct 29 2015, 4:06am
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I didn't watch the EE yet but less Beorn is a big disappointment :(
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"By Elbereth and Luthien the fair, you shall have neither the Ring nor me!" ~Frodo
"And then Gandalf arose and bid all men rise, and they rose, and he said: 'Here is a last hail ere the feast endeth. Last but not least. For I name now those who shall not be forgotten and without whose valour nought else that was done would have availed; and I name before you all Frodo of the Shire and Samwise his servant. And the bards and the minstrels should give them new names: Bronwe athan Harthad and Harthad Uluithiad , Endurance beyond Hope and Hope Unquenchable.." ~Gandalf, The End of the Third Age , from The History of Middle Earth series
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MouthofSauron
Dor-Lomin
Oct 29 2015, 4:13am
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and don't forget about the troll with no legs!
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The flames of war are upon you..
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adt100
Nargothrond
Oct 29 2015, 8:28am
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The film NEEDED more battle!!!
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The film is 'the battle of te five armies', there is a huge (and near perfect) build up to the, yet passes by with barely a winker it seems. We've had plenty of character moments, in fact I think almost too many of the quiet, reflective or one on one moments compared to actual fighting and in particular a proper conclusion to the battle. It just peters out once the dwarves go to ravenhill. This is the first EE I have truly welcomed more battle!
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Lindele
Mithlond
Oct 29 2015, 1:02pm
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Than character moments (which it has more of by the way) was a less choppy and more cohesive Battle [of the Five Armies] and more closure, which the EE definitely delivered on. Would I have liked to see more? Of course! But it definitely does not disappoint.
And by the way, despite what some of these posters are leading to believe, there is more Beorn in the EE than the TE.
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Thrain II
Menegroth
Oct 29 2015, 1:56pm
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The whole 10 seconds of him! Now in the EE of BOFA we have total amount of Beorn for staggering 15 seconds!!! Take that PJ haters!
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Lindele
Mithlond
Oct 29 2015, 2:08pm
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Or 5
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Smaug the iron
Mithlond
Oct 29 2015, 2:43pm
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We have 25 seconds of Beorn in TBOFA EE.
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Thrain II
Menegroth
Oct 29 2015, 3:30pm
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Did you count? Are you sure? If true, this is really earth-shattering time they gave him! I really can't understand how could anyone ask for more.
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