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I guess the Nazguls
 

Remus
Menegroth


Nov 6 2014, 10:50pm

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I guess the Nazguls Can't Post

are visible to everyone? They are not yet invisible because Sauron is not that powerful yet, and with Saurons power being kinda low, not like in LOTR, makes the Nazguls weaker and looks like ghosts which everyone can see.


Or maybe they can show themselves if they want to.... Or... Well... I guess we will get the answers in the movie. Or maybe not. Radagast clearly saw the Witch King in AUJ.


The Nazguls are a really hard thing to talk about. So full of mystery they are.


Fàfnir
Nargothrond


Nov 6 2014, 10:57pm

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I think istaris and Ring Bearers should be able to see them [In reply to] Can't Post

Just like Frodo does in the book after his injurie at weathertop, if i remember correctly


SafeUnderHill
Nargothrond

Nov 6 2014, 10:59pm

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The nazgul [In reply to] Can't Post

Look brilliant in the new trailer. They've gone for a completely new look and I love it! Nice change from the twilight design in AUJ (that was exactly the same as from LOTR).


Remus
Menegroth


Nov 6 2014, 11:04pm

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Yeah, that makes sense. Powerful beings can see them because they can see or enter the spirit world. Smile


Remus
Menegroth


Nov 6 2014, 11:09pm

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Did you notice [In reply to] Can't Post

The Nazgul wearing Easterling armor/gear???

Here, i took a prnt scrn!

http://imgur.com/naiyRrL

And the blue one i marked must be the Witch King, which looks like SAURON!

I hope it's a long scene and they talk some... I really like the idea of good vs. evil discussing/talking to each other.


(This post was edited by Remus on Nov 6 2014, 11:10pm)


Faleel
Nargothrond


Nov 6 2014, 11:11pm

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... [In reply to] Can't Post

Khamul and the Witch King?


Eruonen
Gondolin


Nov 6 2014, 11:13pm

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Ahh, now we know what happened to the two Blue Wizards! ;) [In reply to] Can't Post

My guess is that the next scene shows Elrond coming in to kick some Nazgul ass...with Saruman.


Bombadil
Gondolin


Nov 6 2014, 11:48pm

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THang you...for the Hi REZ pic... [In reply to] Can't Post

The Statue in the Center does look like
it iz Holding a Palantir?

Bom waz Hoping that Saruman gets One Here!
Even if thaaat iz Not what is the
Books.

bom


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Plurmo
Nargothrond

Nov 7 2014, 12:50am

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A Nazgul wearing a Flying Nun costume. Was that a halloween party?// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


QuackingTroll
Doriath


Nov 7 2014, 1:00am

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Or just the ring bearers? [In reply to] Can't Post

Hm... I was just going to suggest that only the ring-bearers can see them - which is why Saruman has to face Sauron, because he can't see the Nazgul.

But Radagast sees the Witch King in AUJ, so theory ruined. I'll make the post anyway coz I think it's an interesting thought. Tongue


(This post was edited by QuackingTroll on Nov 7 2014, 1:00am)


Fàfnir
Nargothrond


Nov 7 2014, 1:59am

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The Istaris have an even more natural connexion to the spirit world... [In reply to] Can't Post

...since they are spirits in the first place, who chose to take bodies of flesh to share the sufferings of mortals. There is no doubt they can see the Nazguls as they are, just like Sauron can


Silverlode
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Nov 7 2014, 2:02am

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And High Elves, too. [In reply to] Can't Post

We see in the book that Glorfindel glows brightly to Frodo's eyes when he is succumbing to the Morgul blade, and Gandalf says that he is seeing him "as he is on the other side" and that "those who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm live at once in both worlds, and against both the Seen and the Unseen they have great power". So it seems to me that those who live and have power in both worlds - the Istari and the Elf lords - can probably see the Nazgul at all times. They're only invisible to mortals, who need some extra mechanism/power, such as the Ring, to allow them to see into the spirit realm.

I think the members of the White Council should all be able to see the Nazgul.

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NecromancerRising
Hithlum


Nov 7 2014, 4:18am

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That was mostly my main fear [In reply to] Can't Post

about them.I did not want them to look like the twilight figures in AUJ,and this new look and design surpassed my expectations.I wanted them to feel and look more grounded and the trailer did not disappoint me at all in this matter.So looking forward to the Dol Guldur confrontations.

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