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HOBBITFAN13
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Nov 25 2015, 12:58am
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Hobbit and the Oscars
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The Hobbit did not win a single Oscar at the oscars from 2013-2015 at all? Do you think the Hobbit deserved an Oscar or you agree with the Academy? I really thought there was great performances in the Hobbit like Richard Armitage, Martin Freeman, Ian McKellen, etc.
Do you think PJ is a bit disappointed the Hobbit didn't get any Oscars?!
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Silverlode
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Nov 25 2015, 1:17am
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I never really expected it to win any.
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The Academy gave them all to LOTR, specifically ROTK. And since TH was a re-visit of the same world, they were unlikely to award it again. The Hobbit would have had to be absolutely ground-breaking in some respect to have gotten any, and it was good, but not astonishingly different.
As to the great performances, absolutely. But LOTR didn't win any acting Oscars either (though it got an ensemble BAFTA). It's difficult for members of true ensemble casts to get nominations, and even more difficult for fantasy films or comedies. The term "Oscar-bait" exists because the Academy has some pretty clear preferences for the type of role they like to give awards to.
I'm sure Peter would have liked to get awards, but I don't think that's really what he does it for in the end.
Silverlode
Roads go ever ever on
Under cloud and under star
Yet feet that wandering have gone
Turn at last to home afar.
Eyes that fire and sword have seen
And horror in the halls of stone
Look at last on meadows green
And trees and hills they long have known.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Nov 25 2015, 8:38am
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...the films were screened by critics, the consensus was that the films most likely wouldn't get much awards attention due to the outpouring of affection that Return of the King received.
As for acting nods, I think we all would have liked to see Martin get some notices - but given that even Sean Astin couldn't secure a nod for RotK, it likely would have been an extremely uphill battle even if the films had received a rapturous response.
"The danger with any movie that does as well as this one does is that the amount of money it's making and the number of awards that it's got becomes almost more important than the movie itself in people's minds. I look at that as, in a sense, being very much like the Ring, and its effect on people. You know, you can kind of forget what we were doing, if you get too wrapped up in that."
- Viggo Mortensen
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Arannir
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Nov 25 2015, 10:33am
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What I found a shame was that it did not get a "Production Design" Nomination for "Desolation of Smaug". That was weird after AUJ was nominated (which repeated much from FotR).
There was really no actor in TH though who imho had an Oscar-worthy performance (which does not mean good or not good) comapred to other people niminated those years.
I assume PJ knew it would be hard to get much recognition other than a few noms. It was a bit sad to see that even the tech noms broke away after AUJ... but that was not totally unreasonable after the general reception to the movies.
"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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Otaku-sempai
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Nov 25 2015, 1:13pm
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If you count the technical awards then The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey did receive one Academy Award: Simon Clutterbuck, James Jacobs and Dr. Richard Dorling won the Scientific and Engineering Award.
"Things need not to have happened to be true.
Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure
when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
- Dream of the Endless
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malickfan
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Nov 25 2015, 2:05pm
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Honestly, I don't think it deserved to win any
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And I don't mean that in a trollish, nasty way, I just feel there is nothing particularly groundbreaking or award winning about these films (with the exception of Smaug), and the academy probably felt Jackson and co had already done it all before, and better with LOTR. Personally I don't think TH trilogy was as strong as LOTR as a whole anyway, and I'm glad the awards went to different sorts of films over the three years, rather than being handed out to one trilogy.
The Hobbit was a return to the same world as LOTR, and even with the much bigger budget, a much less riskier and groundbreaking trilogy than LOTR, so even if the films were stronger overall I don't think the academy would vote for the same sort of thing twice (the academy being biased against blockbusters and fantasy as a rule anyway), LOTR was a groundbreaking gamble that surprised everyone, TH was an inevitable follow uo with much more exceptions and money that dissapointed some
That said, I do think you could argue the trilogy deserved a few more nominations at least-production design, Special Effects, and perhaps cinematography and music...though for me personally the award worthy elements of this trilogy were spread very widely over thre three films, whereas I felt all three LOTR films were award worthy as a whole, on their own terms.
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