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MedwedtoBeorn
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Oct 31 2015, 4:22pm
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Hobbit and LotR reimagined
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How long do you think WB and MGM will wait before there is another adaptation? Having such a valuable movie license, it hard to imagine they will never revisit them. I imagine sometime around 2020 they will have to be thinking about it. I'd like to think if some rising star director came to them and made a pitch for his vision of them and wowed the movie execs like PJ did with Bob Shaye it could happen. I think that's what it would take, an extreme talent with the passion for the source material like PJ with Tolkien or JJ Abrams with SW making an inspired pitch about what his vision for the adaptation was.
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Thrain II
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Oct 31 2015, 5:25pm
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Not because I dislike PJ's films, but because I am interested to see my favorite stories on film again, with the different approach. 
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miko
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Oct 31 2015, 6:01pm
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I think all we'll see in the next few years are jazzed-up versions of the existing films, like a 3D version of LotR. Not until Warners thoroughly exhausts the revenue potential of its existing properties (the films) will it consider a new adaptation.
I expect the need/desire for a new adaptation will be driven by new film technology that the current films could not be squeezed into supporting, such as a "virtual reality" version. VR films are going to be the next big breakthrough, leaving 3D in the dust. I thought VR was kind of ridiculous until I read that VR films could put you in a virtual theater, watching a movie together with your friends and family, no matter where you all live. That's a quick and dirty VR implementation that would work with existing films, too.
What I think would be a great "product" to offer are digital downloads/streaming "make your own favorite version" of the films, where you can choose to add or leave out specific extended or deleted scenes. The percentage you could customize would not need to be huge, 5-10 percent, but would make a big difference to some of us.
I expect that in about five to ten years there may be a new cut of the films offered, not necessarily Peter Jackson approved, but issued by the studios to make a quick buck. I'm thinking of what happened with Black Hawk Down, for instance. Sony issued a new release that Ridley Scott had nothing to do with, and it was a total mess, with sequences in the wrong place chronologically.
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MedwedtoBeorn
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Nov 1 2015, 12:30am
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If we are lucky five years from now and we get an up and comer with the talent of a PJ or GDT who loved this material and convinced MGM and WB to sign off on another adaptation, I'm not sure we will ever again the fan access we enjoyed with these versions. I think the multiple year productions in NZ and with WETA and the access PJ allowed and the time he and others gave of themselves along with Michael Pellerin's talent for the documentaries was likely a once in a life time deal. I'm not sure fans of anything will ever go along for the production ride like we did on these.
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Nov 1 2015, 8:57am
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...they should try Europe.
''Do not fear the shadows, for seeing them means light is near...''
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lonelymountainhermit
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Nov 1 2015, 6:48pm
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Now that PJ has filmed the definitive version of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit, complete with Legolas flying with bats, wouldn't another version be a bit redundant?
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AshNazg
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Nov 1 2015, 7:01pm
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I suppose someone could try adapting the book into a film?
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Would love to see the book of The Hobbit adapted into a movie. Although I don't know if there's much interest, it's not like the book was very popular. PJs trilogy was a much more well received and interesting story than what Tolkien wrote.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
Dor-Lomin
Nov 1 2015, 7:05pm
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I don't think we'll see it in the near future...
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I know people have major issues the Hobbit films, but the LotR trilogy is considered such a modern classic that I don't think there will be an attempt to "remake" it for a long time. I know studios are greedy, yadayadayada, but the critical success and mass popularity of LotR puts it on a very distinctive level.
I expect WB to milk the existing films for years to come, and maybe, if they can find a legal way to do it, produce sequels, prequels, spin-offs, etc. But an all out remake of LotR (and even The Hobbit) - I don't expect we'll see that any time remotely soon.
"The danger with any movie that does as well as this one does is that the amount of money it's making and the number of awards that it's got becomes almost more important than the movie itself in people's minds. I look at that as, in a sense, being very much like the Ring, and its effect on people. You know, you can kind of forget what we were doing, if you get too wrapped up in that."
- Viggo Mortensen
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Otaku-sempai
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Nov 1 2015, 7:10pm
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When you write 'reimagined,' I think of something like what we actually got with Peter Jackson's Hobbit trilogy or even more radical. Reimagined is what happens when one retells H.G. Wells; The War of the Worlds as a series of radio bulletins in the north-eastern United States or set the main action in Southern California. Reimagined is what happens when one starts with William Shakespeare's The Tempest and end with Forbidden Planet. Or when we film Romeo and Juliet in a modern-day setting with handguns and sports cars, or stage it as a musical on the streets of New York City. Or when we turn The Wizard of Oz into The Wiz.
So, along the lines of the examples above, how would you reimagine The Hobbit and/or The Lord of the Rings? I might retell The Hobbit as a 7-minute Looney Tunes short featuring Bugs Bunny in the lead.
"Things need not to have happened to be true.
Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure
when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
- Dream of the Endless
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lonelymountainhermit
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Nov 1 2015, 7:38pm
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I suppose you are correct as usual. Tolkien would never have thought to have Legolas hang gliding on a bat! Or elves loving dwarves in a sexy way. A film version of the book would be interesting to see. And then the kids could use it to do their book reports and not receive an F- like they would if they used the PJ version.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
Dor-Lomin
Nov 1 2015, 7:45pm
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Ah, but you see, that will teach them a lesson that they need to read the book for such things.
"The danger with any movie that does as well as this one does is that the amount of money it's making and the number of awards that it's got becomes almost more important than the movie itself in people's minds. I look at that as, in a sense, being very much like the Ring, and its effect on people. You know, you can kind of forget what we were doing, if you get too wrapped up in that."
- Viggo Mortensen
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MedwedtoBeorn
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Nov 1 2015, 10:52pm
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Is there such a thing? There are at least a half dozen directors including GDT that I would love to adapt the Hobbit. I think they all would contain key elements of the books but the flavor and visual imagery would reflect the Director's taste and vision. Of the directors I have in mind, I am sure I would enjoy each of the adaptations knowing they would be different movies.
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lonelymountainhermit
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Nov 2 2015, 12:18am
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I would be curious to see Tommy Wiseau have a go at it. He probably wouldn't have the budget PJ had, but he has a green screen. I'm sure with a dollar store halloween novelty bat, he could recreate the thrilling Legolas bat scene with not too much trouble.
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MedwedtoBeorn
Ossiriand
Nov 2 2015, 1:14am
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GDT, Alfonso Cuaron, Shane Carruth, and Duncan Jones are all directors I would love to do an adaptation of Hobbit and LotR.
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Ringtir
Ossiriand
Nov 4 2015, 3:26am
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so dumb (like the one of Botfa) that accepts to carry Blueshinyeyes without dropping him.
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LSF
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Nov 4 2015, 3:32am
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I haven't seen any of Cuaron's other work, but I really loved his Harry Potter movie. It's got a distinct style that none of the others have, while still feeling true to the world. I would like to see him do a Hobbit and LOTR.
I like del Toro's work that I've seen (Pan's Labyrinth, Hellboy 1 and 2) but I think he might go too fantastical with it. I do wish we could see some of his design ideas for Hobbit before he left.
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