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longbottom
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May 9 2008, 9:38pm
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Adding Legolas in...
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This may have been discussed already, but I think I wouldn't mind a little "director's leeway" in adding in Legolas into the Hobbit. He could easily be added into some of the scene's with Thranduil. Also, he could become a part (maybe even a big part) of the battle of 5 armies. I'm sure some would be against it, but from a Hollywood standpoint, I think getting Legolas in there would help the continuity between the Hobbit and LOTR.
Surely the ladies would like this, and I wouldn't mind it either.
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Jazmine
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May 9 2008, 10:42pm
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to Legolas making an appearance, he is, after all, Thranduil's son, so it would be entirely plausible. However, I'm not sure it's necessary for him to play a starring role in the Battle of Five Armies. Though, it was probably likely he was there. Just don't think his part needs to be too huge! There'll be enough going on at that battle as it is!
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namadriel
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May 9 2008, 10:54pm
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It definitely makes sense for him to be there. But he should just be one of the many elves in the battle. Maybe even be an elf that Bilbo passes when he's saving the dwarves from captivity in the caves.
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One Ringer
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May 10 2008, 1:42am
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Put him in the bridge film . . .
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That is, for a bigger part. I wouldn't mind seeing him in the background of some shots (Mirkwood, Battle of Five Armies), but nothing big.
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leo
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May 10 2008, 9:57am
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The battle of the six armies...
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Legolas can be his own army, we've already seen him liberate Gondor and un-siege Helms Deep pretty much on his own... surfing shields and taking out Oliphaunts on his own... And that was when he was 'old'...
Okay I am being sarcastic :| I can actually do without Legolas alltogether. For one because in The Hobbit, the Elves are a bit, well, mean. So he would have to be too. It wouldn't match with the kind, thoughtfull, softvoiced Legolas we saw in LOTR, I guess. And ya know... there'll be plenty of other Elves to swoon over. And they probably can't pay his salary anymore. I dunno...there just seem to be more reasons not to bring him in.
But that's just my two cents.
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May 11 2008, 12:27am
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How would GDT be able to reconcile the Mirkwood Elves' social environment with Legolas's movie temperament? I can't see movie Legolas, with his softly spoken ways (even when making a dig at the Dwarf's expense), being the natural product of Thranduil's halls.
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mae govannen
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May 11 2008, 1:29pm
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he could be precisely THE Mirkwood Elf who is different, not mean, and a bit tired of the meanness of others...?
I guess all this could fit more into the second film though.
In the 'Hobbit film as such, a simple cameo or two might be enough... *sigh*... but I would miss him, I must admit!!! 
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Marionette
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May 11 2008, 3:11pm
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Adding Legolas... There´s many important thing to show in The Hobbit.
I was very mad with Peter Jackson adding too much Arwen in LOTR (and definitely OVERRATING Legolas XD) and ruining the chance for other moments of the books to be better in the movie or to the other characters to have a better role... Maybe the other moments and those other characters were already ruined anywayz  with or without Arwen... How ever :: I said NO Legolas in The Hobbit for God´s sake...
But actually, it depends, adding Legolas as part of the elves, if he do not steal time from the important characters and moments, it wouldnt mind.
But anywayzz I am afraid, they should not take the risk. There´s too much to care about to add more things...
I dont know what to say if its appropiated to add Legolas or not. Its not important in The Hobbit. But again, if he´s just part of the elves, I guess it doenst make any problem... eh.
I hope I will not regret of saying that XDD
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(This post was edited by Masquerade_Górtari on May 11 2008, 3:13pm)
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Arwen's daughter
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May 12 2008, 3:23pm
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If they really want/need to include Legolas, it should be a very tiny cameo, imo. No big part, no over-the-top stunts, no long lingering shots. I think it would be even better if it was something we had to watch out for, like PJ's early cameos. An aha! moment that passes as the real action gets going. I think that not including him will have no lasting effects on the continuity between The Hobbit and LOTR and including him could hurt The Hobbit as a standalone movie.
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Lunamoth
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May 12 2008, 4:57pm
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While I don't know for sure that his presence is absolutely necessary, being a fan of his character means I'd of course like to see more of him "before" his involvement with The Fellowship. Apart from what others are suggesting where he makes a cameo appearance in his father's halls at some point, I could imagine it wouldn't be altogether out of place to see him in the Sprequel, should they for some reason detail a scene with Gollum getting away from him and the other Mirkwood elves who used to take him out for walks so he could climb a tree and feel the breeze. IIRC, in the books, Legolas came to Rivendell originally to report that Gollum had escaped from detention in Mirkwood, and I always assumed that Legolas had actually been witness to it since he was giving the report.
So, if anything, that little piece would make sense to have him in it.
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N.E. Brigand
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May 12 2008, 8:33pm
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He didn't witness Gollum's escape.
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The elves who were guarding Gollum were killed by orcs.
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Lunamoth
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May 12 2008, 8:43pm
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It's been a while since I read that scene where he explains it, so I guess I misremembered how it all went down. Thanks!
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keithf777
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May 14 2008, 1:36am
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No need to reconcile anything...
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How would GDT be able to reconcile the Mirkwood Elves' social environment with Legolas's movie temperament? I can't see movie Legolas, with his softly spoken ways (even when making a dig at the Dwarf's expense), being the natural product of Thranduil's halls.
For starters, we were seeing the mature version of Legolas in LOTR. A second point is that just because Mirkwood elves are generally of a certain temperament, it doesn't mean every elf acts in exactly the same manner in every situation. Or speaks in exactly the same manner. That's a very one-dimensional way to look at things.
I thought Bloom's performance in LOTR captured the spirit of the character in the books nicely. And since, in my opinion, the Legolas of the LOTR books needs no reconciliation with the Mirkwood elves of the Hobbit novel, I don't see why GDT would need to reconcile the movie Legolas with anything.
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mae govannen
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May 14 2008, 1:15pm
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What I am really interested in
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is that it will have to be shown to us how Legolas became such an old, faithful and even devoted friend of Aragorn, as he is made to be in the 'Rings' films, an innivative idea I immediately liked when listening to him at the Council of Elrond.
Whether something will start already between them during the time covered by 'The Hobbit', or only during the time-period covered by the second film, doesn't matter much to me... well, as long as he does appear a bit already in 'The Hobbit' too!!! 
I realize I would probably miss him otherwise...
Oh, gosh, I know it's quite irrational, and I myself am stunned to discover this, but the very thought of not having him at all in 'The Hobbit' feels terrible!!! He is like family now, somehow, if you see what I mean... 
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