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SandWitch King
Nargothrond
Mar 9 2007, 10:13am
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Faramir in a loin cloth
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Dudes, I saw this killer movie, and I mean killer movie and much to my surprise, Faramir is in it! In fact the first thing I heard was Faramir talking about killing and bravery and stuff.
So in this movie, there are all those mostly naked men, 300 of them (plus some other guys who apparently nobody bothered to count) in loin cloths and helmets with brushes on top and big shields and they have been doing extensive sit-up training. The women are mostly all naked too, or at least topless but they don't wear any helmets, just really gauzy clothes and it seems to be cold a lot - you know snow and stuff.
So these loin-cloth guys, including Faramir, fight a whole bunch of really crazy-cool freaky guys like ninjas and rhinos and bomb guys and the Hunchback of Notre Dame (which I thought was weird because it was way before Paris) and giants and archers.
When the really super good-fighting-loin-cloth dudes get some extensive battle scenes, everybody says all of these little "fighting" cliches all the time. That includes both Faramir and the ninjas and the king Gerrard Butler. When the fighting starts and surgically severed heads start spinning in slow motion while arms and legs explode off bodies and artfully directed blood flies in everywhere, I forget about the cliches.
It turns out Faramir is like, practically the lead of the show, but even though King Butler and all the other loin-cloth dudes act like he is tough, everybody knows he is bard acting like a soldier.
Once upon a time I was MrCere. I still am but this name is for posting and being part of the community while that one is for official business. 8-)
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Morwen
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Mar 9 2007, 12:51pm
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But it sounds like the movie doesn't live up to expectations. Maybe I'll wait for the DVD to see Faramir in his loincloth.
I wish you could have been there
When she opened up the door
And looked me in the face
Like she never did before
I felt about as welcome
As a Wal-Mart Superstore--John Prine
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Darkstone
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Mar 9 2007, 2:03pm
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Pippin: "When you guys fall, does it make a sound?"
Bregalad: "Are you kidding? Scott fell last week and he hasn't shut up about it since."
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Owlyross
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Mar 9 2007, 2:06pm
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That like totally pwns!
Sounds good to me. Looking forward to seeing 300...
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
Benjamin Franklin
The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.
Horace Walpole (1717 - 1797)
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Entwife Wandlimb
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Mar 9 2007, 2:30pm
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In the picture I saw of him... (minor spoiler)
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Thanks for the review! (You started my day with a smile.)
THe one pic I saw of of him in 300 he had on an eye patch. Does he have it for the whole film?
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Annael
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Mar 9 2007, 3:47pm
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is it more in the V for Vendetta mode, or Sam Peckinpah?
I can handle gore that's stylized and cartoonish, but lovingly dwelling on gaping wounds, not so much.
“I think perhaps the most important problem is that we are trying to understand the fundamental workings of the universe via a language devised for telling one another where the best fruit is."
-- Terry Pratchett,
NARF and member of Deplorable Cultus since 1967
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Lossefalme
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Mar 9 2007, 4:16pm
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They had an excellent show on the battle depicted in 300 last night on the History Channel called Last Stand of the 300. There were tens of thousands of Persians fighting 300 Spartans (Faramir!). I'm afraid that the movie may be a little too graphic for me to see on the big screen, but the entire story was really fascinating on TV. Check it out if it repeats!
(Formerly Lossefalme3, just in case you're wondering)*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Aragorn threw back his cloak. The elven-sheath glittered as he grasped it, and the bright blade of Andúril shone like a sudden flame as he swept it out. 'Elendil!' he cried. 'I am Aragorn son of Arathorn, and am called Elessar, the Elfstone, Dúnadan, the heir of Isildur Elendil's son of Gondor. Here is the Sword that was Broken and is forged again! Will you aid me or thwart me? Choose swiftly!' TTT, Book III, Chapter 2
And Éomer answered: 'Since the day when you rose before me out of the green grass of the downs I have loved you, and that love shall not fail.' RotK, Book VI, Chapter 5
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Idril Celebrindal
Dor-Lomin
Mar 9 2007, 5:08pm
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Sounds like Zardoz in Ancient Greece
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Zardoz was a post-apocalypse flick from the '70s that featured Sean Connery in a leather diaper, a giant floating head, and many pretentious pronouncements. I forsee similar "so bad it's good" cult status for 300.
Which leads me to my new rule of movie-going:
The number of guys in leather undies is inversely proportional to the quality of the movie.
With caffeine, all things are possible.
The pity of Bilbo will screw up the fate of many.
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Idril Celebrindal
Dor-Lomin
Mar 9 2007, 5:11pm
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Go tell the Spartans, passer-by ...
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That here, obedient to their laws, we lie.
With caffeine, all things are possible.
The pity of Bilbo will screw up the fate of many.
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Annael
Elvenhome
Mar 9 2007, 6:04pm
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Excellent piece of cheese. Sean in red hot pants spouting lines like "stay close to me, inside my aura" - what's not to like?
Mary Ann Johanson loved 300.
“I think perhaps the most important problem is that we are trying to understand the fundamental workings of the universe via a language devised for telling one another where the best fruit is."
-- Terry Pratchett,
NARF and member of Deplorable Cultus since 1967
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RosieLass
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Mar 9 2007, 6:19pm
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Because I think it's rated "R" (although all the lovely shirtless chests are mighty tempting...).
The guy with the big black beard in all the publicity photos is supposed to be the Persian king, Xerxes, right? Am I the only one who thinks he looks like a young Brian Blessed? Especially when he's shouting with his mouth gaping open and all his teeth showing?
Children’s Interpretations of the Bible
Lot’s wife was a pillar of salt during the day, but a ball of fire during the night.
The greatest miracle in the Bible is when Joshua told his son to stand still and he obeyed him.
Christians have only one spouse. This is called monotony.
http://mallika.vox.com/
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SandWitch King
Nargothrond
Mar 9 2007, 6:27pm
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No, he doesn't always have an eye patch in the film. 
Once upon a time I was MrCere. I still am but this name is for posting and being part of the community while that one is for official business. 8-)
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SandWitch King
Nargothrond
Mar 9 2007, 6:34pm
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It is most comparable to Sin City. It is highly styled, but graphic, testosterone laced violence. The film has its own style (not a Sin City copy) but when heads go flying nobody minds if you see an artery or two and the severed stump of a vertebre if you want to look closely. There were so many decapitations that it started to feel like a revolution in France.
Once upon a time I was MrCere. I still am but this name is for posting and being part of the community while that one is for official business. 8-)
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Elizabeth
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Mar 9 2007, 6:35pm
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If you really want to see a lot more of David Wenham
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(and I do mean a lot, though not quite all), rush right out and get Better Than Sex. It's sexy, funny, and (best of all) not at all violent or scary.
Queen Mary II approaching Honolulu harbor
February 9, 2007, 7:30 am
Elizabeth is the TORnsib formerly known as 'erather'
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SandWitch King
Nargothrond
Mar 9 2007, 6:37pm
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I enjoyed the film, a lot even, I just don't know that I recommend it for this crowd. The substance here is all style. The style is the substance but it doesn't pretend to be otherwise. It feels grand and epic and operatic with rich and gooey eye candy.
Once upon a time I was MrCere. I still am but this name is for posting and being part of the community while that one is for official business. 8-)
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SandWitch King
Nargothrond
Mar 9 2007, 6:43pm
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Xerxes is actually one of the very coolest aspects of the film. Here is a guy who thinks he is a god and comands an army with no compare. How do you portray that guy on film and have him be believable? Very well. His throne and costume and make-up and voice and menace and aspect are spectacular. He seems gigantic and intimidating and even a little bit divine. I was quite impressed. The throne shown in this picture is carried by 100 men on their backs.
Once upon a time I was MrCere. I still am but this name is for posting and being part of the community while that one is for official business. 8-)
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RosieLass
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Mar 9 2007, 7:55pm
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He's "lost his drawers" as my mother used to say when we our shorts or skirts were too short. 
Yeah, I guess it's Leonidas that I mean. And I prefer Gerard Butler without the face camouflage, too. 
Children’s Interpretations of the Bible
Lot’s wife was a pillar of salt during the day, but a ball of fire during the night.
The greatest miracle in the Bible is when Joshua told his son to stand still and he obeyed him.
Christians have only one spouse. This is called monotony.
http://mallika.vox.com/
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Annael
Elvenhome
Mar 9 2007, 8:09pm
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I'm debating. I'm no more a fan of clinical gore than I am a fan of clinical sex - I think it's much better when room is left for one's imagination to fill in details! But I hear great things about the performances, and I do like stylized stuff - I adored V for Vendetta. Maybe I'll rent Sin City and see how I like that.
“I think perhaps the most important problem is that we are trying to understand the fundamental workings of the universe via a language devised for telling one another where the best fruit is."
-- Terry Pratchett,
NARF and member of Deplorable Cultus since 1967
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SandWitch King
Nargothrond
Mar 9 2007, 8:35pm
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I hope you aren't assuming V for Vendetta and Sin City and 300 are similar because they were all comic books.
V has a different author, Alan Moore, who was also the author of A League of Extrodinary Gentlemen which I esteem as one of the worst adaptations, if not one of the worst films, ever! V is a pretty great - both comic book movies. (I DO recommend reading League and never ever, no matter what, seeing the film).
Sin and 300 share not only the same writer but the same writer/artist, Frank Miller. His approach and style and interests in storytelling are oceans apart from Moore's. (Literally since Moore lives in the UK and Miller in the US).
It seems to me Miller is just having fun telling cool stories filled with larger-than-life heros and villains and over-the-top violence. Sure there is social commentary, but mostly the guy is making cool stories. Moore is more interested in "saying something" and thinking rather than entertaining. V for Vendetta was his response to living in the UK during the time of Margaret Thatcher. Both guys are brilliant and at the top of the field but enjoying V will in no way directly translate to enjoying 300 or Sin City.
Sin City is brutal, hard boiled, crime noir fiction that literally takes Miller's comic book (oh excuse me! Graphic Novel sounds so much more important!) visuals and puts motion to them on the screen. It is visceral and wrenching, despite being over-the-top to the point of being cartoony.
300 is more of a tribute to a great story in history (note: not history but legendary story with some historical background) with plenty of icky bad guys and blood splatters. It has more 6-pack tummies and manly pectorals and heaving breasts than a Mr. Universe paegent.
In my opinion the comic book today is our contemporary mythology and thus full of heros and violence and deplorable behavior. Grand opera. Of great interest to me is the news that the director of 300 will next be taking on perhaps the single greatest superhero story (superhero deconstruction) ever. EVER. It is called, "Watchmen" and if you haven't read it, shame shame shame.
Other comic book movies I recommend: Road To Perdition, History of Violence, American Splendor, Ghost World and X2,
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Annael
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Mar 9 2007, 8:57pm
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No, I'm just trying to get a better picture of what the violence/gore factor is (and for some reason I suddenly can't put anything in the mesage box)
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“I think perhaps the most important problem is that we are trying to understand the fundamental workings of the universe via a language devised for telling one another where the best fruit is."
-- Terry Pratchett,
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Annael
Elvenhome
Mar 9 2007, 8:59pm
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and no I haven't read Watchman, but "shaming" doesn't work on me, just makes me contrary
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“I think perhaps the most important problem is that we are trying to understand the fundamental workings of the universe via a language devised for telling one another where the best fruit is."
-- Terry Pratchett,
NARF and member of Deplorable Cultus since 1967
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SandWitch King
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Mar 9 2007, 9:07pm
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May I assure you that Watchmen is a thoughtful, passionate, artistic and literary work that has influenced pop culture and entertainment for two decades and it is fun to read?
Once upon a time I was MrCere. I still am but this name is for posting and being part of the community while that one is for official business. 8-)
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