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Not to reopen a can of worms or anything,

GaladrielTX
Tol Eressea


Mar 11 2007, 11:02pm

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Not to reopen a can of worms or anything, Can't Post

but after revisitng the old boards yesterday and coming here, I realized that the large margins on the old boards really made the text easier to read. I find myself having trouble with the line length here and actually skimming posts rather than reading everything in each line, unless I really concentrate on it.

Just my two cents.

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I used to be GaladrielTX, but I lost my TX and an hour over the weekend. Stupid Daylight Saving Time!



Aerin
Grey Havens


Mar 12 2007, 12:38am

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I'm with you! [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm having exactly the same problem. If I want to read posts easily, I have to both increase the type size and make my browser window narrower (and the latter move doesn't work on some posts, because they won't rewrap). Then when I switch to the forum view, I have to make the type size smaller and the window wider again, because the column for the subject lines is too narrow, causing all but the shortest ones to wrap, and making it hard to read them or to see the structure of the threads. It's very, very frustrating.

Did you see the discussion of this issue on page 2 of this board? Unfortunately, there are a lot of misconceptions about the line-width issue. I feel like a voice in the wilderness!


GaladrielTX
Tol Eressea


Mar 12 2007, 12:41am

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Yeah, I saw that. / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Mar 12 2007, 1:31am

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That's why [In reply to] Can't Post

I've always kept the 'History' menu open in the margin.
I hated seeing wide posts on all the boards I visit, and doing that helps.
Not always enough, but it does help.


GaladrielTX
Tol Eressea


Mar 12 2007, 1:40am

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*baffled* What's the history menu? / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Mar 12 2007, 2:13am

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I don't know what the proper name is. [In reply to] Can't Post

It's that window I open from the 'History' icon on the browser toolbar.
It keeps me from hitting the 'back' button all the time. =)


GaladrielTX
Tol Eressea


Mar 12 2007, 2:14am

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Oh, that! [In reply to] Can't Post

Yeah, I could use that or the "favorites" button. Thanks for the tip!

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I used to be GaladrielTX, but I lost my TX and an hour over the weekend. Stupid Daylight Saving Time!



Altaira
Superuser / Moderator


Mar 12 2007, 3:19am

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Uh oh, now you've gone and done it... [In reply to] Can't Post


Actually, I agree, and it's on our list of things to look into. Smile

In the mean time, you can resize the screen yourself so it's smaller:

- Look at the "Maximize" icon button at the far top right of your browser window (the one between the - and the X)

- If it's a double window icon, click on it until you see a single window icon).

- Now, place your cursor at the bottom right corner of your browser window and drag it towards the center of the screen. Your browser window should get smaller, and the boards are designed to wrap the text to fit the smaller window (i.e., the lines of text will wrap sooner). Note: after a certain point, it won't wrap any smaller and you won't be able to see part of the text).

Please be patient. We've been a little busy lately with preparing to shut down the old boards and a few other adjustments, but we *will* look into many of the 'doable' suggestions that multiple people have brought up. Smile


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(This post was edited by Altaira on Mar 12 2007, 4:56am)


Aerin
Grey Havens


Mar 12 2007, 4:32am

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Not all browsers have that option. [In reply to] Can't Post

There's always a history menu, but in some browsers, it's just a drop-down menu, and can't be kept open within the main browser window.


GaladrielTX
Tol Eressea


Mar 12 2007, 10:40am

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LOL at the gummy worms! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks, Altaira! No hurry. I know you have a lot of worms on your plate. Um. Euw.

- The Troublemaker

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I used to be GaladrielTX, but I lost my TX and an hour over the weekend. Stupid Daylight Saving Time!



Morwen
Rohan


Mar 12 2007, 6:07pm

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Now I understand what the problem is. [In reply to] Can't Post

I thought the board looked just fine, but my Yahoo Browser has a nice little sidebar on the right side of the screen. When I closed that I could see what people meant by wide text. If you're using IE the history or favorites menu would serve the same purpose, if you don't want to resize your entire browser window.

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NottaSackville
Tol Eressea

Mar 12 2007, 9:04pm

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NOOOOoooooooo - he screamed in horror! [In reply to] Can't Post

Please don't take away my wide text - I love it!

Notta


Magpie
Immortal


Mar 12 2007, 11:56pm

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I know the point you're trying to make about line-width [In reply to] Can't Post

It's a basic in graphic design, of course. It's funny, I don't know if I've had a lot of trouble in other forums with the same sort of wide lines, but I am having a little trouble here. Part of it is line width and part of it is due to the lines being so close to edges of the box. I want some distance between them.

I also wonder if the content of the posts makes a difference. Many posts here have long paragraphs and a lot of 'intellectual content' if you know what I mean. It's not just chat. I just can't seem to make it through a longer paragraph without getting lost.

Lately, when formatting longer posts with lists and stuff, I've been using the indent button. It pushes the text away from the sides of the box and makes the lines a little narrower. It could be useful to use for regular posts, but I doubt many people would do it.

I'll do it for this post... just for kicks.



Altaira
Superuser / Moderator


Mar 13 2007, 12:01am

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Don't worry [In reply to] Can't Post

It won't be drastic. Smile


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Aerin
Grey Havens


Mar 13 2007, 4:43am

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Looks nice! [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm not actually that bothered about text being close to the lines, but your formatting has the benefit of shortening the line widths.

One major problem I've noticed is that if people include large pictures in their posts, the width of the picture determines the line length, so that the text won't wrap when the window is resized.


Aerin
Grey Havens


Mar 13 2007, 4:45am

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It would be nice to have a choice. / [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Altaira
Superuser / Moderator


Mar 13 2007, 4:53am

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Re: Aerin - large pictures in posts [In reply to] Can't Post


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One major problem I've noticed is that if people include large pictures in their posts, the width of the picture determines the line length, so that the text won't wrap when the window is resized.



So true. That was a problem on the old boards too; that and really, really long subject lines, both of which stretch the screen out so far you have to scroll.

That's a user problem though. It's in the FAQ to please avoid long subject lines and/or huge pics, but it's inevitable that they're going to happen every now and then. Crazy



Koru: Maori symbol representing a fern frond as it opens. The koru reaches towards the light, striving for perfection, encouraging new, positive beginnings.



"All we have to decide is what to do with the boards that are given to us"



"I take a moment to fervently hope that the camaradarie and just plain old fun I found at TORn will never end" -- LOTR_nutcase

TORn Calendar


Wynnie
Rohan


Mar 13 2007, 12:13pm

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Glad to hear that /nt [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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