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Did you enjoy all the bloody scenes in PJ's movies?

Lindarielwen
Bree


Jan 30 2015, 1:47pm

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Did you enjoy all the bloody scenes in PJ's movies? Can't Post

I think that he really overdid the battle scenes...=) What is your opinion?

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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jan 30 2015, 2:32pm

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They were not overly bloody. [In reply to] Can't Post

There was not too much bloor nor gore. However, it is fair to say that some of the battle scenes and fight sequences were unnecessarily over-the-top. Individual instances have already been discussed repeatedly, so I will leave it at that.

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Meneldor
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Jan 30 2015, 10:22pm

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I like a good battle scene. [In reply to] Can't Post

Some of my friends are Vikings.


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Gwytha
Rohan


Jan 31 2015, 4:14am

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I didn't find the battle scenes to be bloody [In reply to] Can't Post

I could have done with a much higher percentage of quiet moments, humor and scheming over battle sequences, but I don't consider BOTFA to have been particularly violent. Wouldn't have kept the sought after PG13 rating if it had been truly bloody.

Game of Thrones is bloody. The Vikings is bloody. I still watch them and love them in spite of that but I don't particularly enjoy..well, I will spare you a description of the violence in those shows, but I don't enjoy that part of it. BOTFA is pretty mild by comparison.

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Magpie
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Jan 31 2015, 4:28am

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There were a couple of the most brutal fight scenes on that show that I've ever closed my eyes through.

Nothing in PJ's Middle-earth movies has ever struck me as 'bloody.'

In fact, I can't, of hand, think of when they actually showed blood. A few restrained incidences but not many and they were very restrained.


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cats16
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Jan 31 2015, 4:33am

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The only one I can think of... [In reply to] Can't Post

Is in FOTR, when Aragorn decapitates the first squealing orc in Moria. That moment had the most blood that I can remember seeing in the films.

Even then, the editing in that sequence is very tight and did not linger on it for more than a second or two.



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Magpie
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Jan 31 2015, 4:40am

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there's also the infamous ... [In reply to] Can't Post

...licking of the knife. That is blood so that qualifies as 'bloody'... in a restrained way.

Have you seen Deadwood, btw? It could be as brutal as Game of Thrones but I man I loved that show through its two seasons. It was brilliant in so many ways.

But once you've seen shows like those, and a few others in the same 'genre'... LOTR/TH doesn't quite qualify as 'bloody'.


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cats16
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Jan 31 2015, 4:49am

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I forget about that one [In reply to] Can't Post

No, I haven't seen Deadwood. I actually didn't know that it was known for its brutality. I'll have to ask around to see if any of my TV friends are into the show.

I've heard similar statements about Sons of Anarchy, though. I suppose FX gets away with that imagery in the same way as HBO does.

Yeah, LOTR definitely feels 'tame' in a sense, once you've come across very brutal shows/movies. In many ways I appreciate PJ for doing it this way.



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Elizabeth
Half-elven


Jan 31 2015, 6:29am

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Not bloody, just boring.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 








Elizabeth
Half-elven


Jan 31 2015, 6:31am

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Rome, too. [In reply to] Can't Post

The first season was pretty bloody, but the second was even more so. Too much for me, and I had to drop out. Too bad, I thought it was really well-done.








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Gwytha
Rohan


Feb 1 2015, 4:15am

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Aragorn's wound [In reply to] Can't Post

in TTT after he fell in the river during the fight with orcs and wargs. That was somewhat bloody to look at, but again nothing remotely approach GOT or Vikings.

I haven't seen Deadwood but I looked it up just now, it looks really good and I might watch it sometime even though I'm not into westerns. Will be prepared to close my eyes as needed.

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Magpie
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Feb 1 2015, 5:12am

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I consider it to be one of the top 5 shows I've watched [In reply to] Can't Post

Although there are lots of popular shows I haven't watched.

If you watch it, come talk about it in the off topic movie thread.


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Darkstone
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Feb 2 2015, 8:46pm

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Every fight tells a story. [In reply to] Can't Post

The swordsmaster and stunt coordinator deliberately choreograph each like a ballet, with a beginning, middle, and end. Each fighting style tells you about the fighter's personality and culture.

Yes, I enjoyed the dancers and the dance.

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Lindarielwen
Bree


Feb 3 2015, 8:11pm

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there's also the infamous...#2 [In reply to] Can't Post

...swearing an oath of loyalty to Saruman, this done by the leader of the Wild Men (aka Dunlendings?) by cutting himself with his dagger and all the dark blood drips down... =')

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dreamflower
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Feb 4 2015, 4:23am

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Not especially gory [In reply to] Can't Post

Some parts were definitely disturbing. But I didn't mind disturbing; life and death violence should be disturbing. However, I did get tired of it going on and on and on. I tried to be patient, since I knew that's what would happen when the name got changed to Battle of Five Armies. But I did wish there was more one-on-one conversation and character moments that did not involve dying.

It was over the top, of course, which is PJ's hallmark; unlike the LOTR trilogy which also had its share of OTT moments, some of it took me out of the story a little as it made me think "cool special effect" instead of worrying if the character was going to survive said effect.

Anyhow, I recently re-watched the Rankin-Bass Hobbit, and while its flaws are myriad (Frog Prince Thranduil and Toad Gollum and Elrond with a beard, anyone?) there's something to be said for a short battle shown on a map by little figures clashing in clouds of dust. Wink

Of course, YMMV. It has to be said a lot of people enjoyed the battles--PJ among them, and I don't want to rain on anyone's parade.


(This post was edited by dreamflower on Feb 4 2015, 4:24am)

 
 

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