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Elutherian
Rohan
Jan 15 2015, 12:14am
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Sir Patrick Stewart as Radagast the Brown
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How awesome would that have been, especially in comparison to the version we got?
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ecthelionsbeard
Lorien
Jan 15 2015, 12:17am
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Actually yeah! He would have been great! I have never been to keen on Sylvester McCoy's take. Although he was no Jar Jar like some claim!
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QueenCirce
Bree
Jan 15 2015, 12:29am
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Buuuttt i am not sure about him portraying radagast. I dunno. Something would seem a bit off maybe. He IS amazing tho.
Unlike a lot I actually liked raddy a lot, and he grew on my especially when he was being serious… it was such a contrast…. The conversation with Gandalf about the spiders and the blade was great and the conversation in the tombs both showed the serious side to raddy and he was great.
They should have done the following in the existing film and he would have actually been amazing.
1. Remove the silly stick insect scene.(10 sec)
2. Remove the cross eyed pipe weed smoking scene (10 sec)
3. Keep the birds, but remove the poop.
4. Don’t make him go cross eyed, when removing the dark spell on the hedge.
5. Extend his fight with the witch king, into a one on one wizard vs nazgul battle.
A few minor cuts, and 30 seconds more battle footage and it would have elevated his character form a combination of a silly, comical and weird ..... to a befuddled kindly wizard, that if angered could become deadly.
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Yngwulff
Gondor
Jan 15 2015, 4:25am
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I think McCoy nailed it. His jittery and bumbling performance was spot on, yet serious as a heart attack when necesary.
Don't think Stewart could do the bumbling side as naturally as McCoy did.
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Glorfindela
Valinor
Jan 15 2015, 8:02am
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Stewart has been used in far too many 'by-the-numbers' celebrity films, and I wouldn't have liked him to appear in this one. I liked the quirkiness Sylvester McCoy provided to the role.
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TheSexyBeard
Lorien
Jan 15 2015, 3:29pm
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I like Patrick Stewart, but I don't think he would have been right for Radagast. I think Radagast suits being absent minded (he could have arguably been less comical) but I can't picture Patrick Stewart playing him. I wouldn't have minded if Patrick Stewart did have a role somewhere in the 6 films but I'm not sure who he could have played.
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Eruonen
Half-elven
Jan 15 2015, 3:30pm
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I don't see him as a good character for these films.
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If I had to place him, I think a dwarf would be better suited....or, possibly, an older Elf such as Cirdan. But, I can see other choices for those roles.
I understand why they wanted some comic relief with Radagast, but my preference still would have been for a more serious character.
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dormouse
Half-elven
Jan 15 2015, 4:06pm
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But no. I don't think he would have fitted at all well as Radagast. I've never like Sylvester McCoy and was dubious when they chose him, but I think he was perfect for the character as they wanted him to be
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Brethil
Half-elven
Jan 15 2015, 4:43pm
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Oh my, yes. 
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Nolane
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Jan 15 2015, 6:02pm
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Stewart would have been better...
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Stewart would not have played him as goofy as McCoy did. One of the few bad casting decisions Peter Jackson and company have made, although they are responsible through the screenplay and direction for making him too goofy in the first place.
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burrahobbit
Rohan
Jan 15 2015, 8:45pm
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It's not just the casting, the whole interpretation of Radagast is a bit wacky and really didn't fit into Tolkien's mythology for me at all.
I just recently came across where much of the inspiration is from, TH White's Merlin-
"The old man was streaked with droppings over his shoulders, among the stars and triangles of his gown, and a large spider was lowering itself from the tip of his hat, as he gazed and slowly blinked at the little boy in front of him."
TH White's Merlin is a lot of fun, but can't say it really worked in the context of The Hobbit.
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Gwytha
Rohan
Jan 15 2015, 11:10pm
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I don't see Patrick Stewart as Radagast even if they'd played his charactar a lot straighter, but I would have enjoyed the film more without the goofy gags, especially would not have missed the bird poo. But the eight year olds would have missed all of that.
I was the mother of an eight year old who fell in love with the LOTR film trilogy in 2001. I don't think he'd have cared for the art house version I wanted and still hope for. Now he's in college I so enjoy the conversations we have about the films. So I'm willing to put up with the bird poo if that's what it takes to bring the next generation into the fold.
We are plain quiet folk and have no use for adventures. Nasty disturbing uncomfortable things! Make you late for dinner!
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Meneldor
Valinor
Jan 15 2015, 11:19pm
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although my first thought was that a young Sir Patrick would be good as Prince Imrahil. Remember his role as King Leodegrance in Excalibur?
They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters, these see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep. -Psalm 107
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Darkstone
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Jan 16 2015, 3:56am
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"These are the voyages of the morning star ship Vingilot." /
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"Elwing, make it so."
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The tremendous landscape of Middle-earth, the psychological and moral universe of The Lord of the Rings, is built up by repetition, semi-repetition, suggestion, foreshadowing, recollection, echo, and reversal. Through it the story goes forward at its steady, human gait. There, and back again.
-Ursula K. LeGuin, Rhythmic Patterning in The Lord of the Rings
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Farficom
Rivendell
Jan 16 2015, 2:51pm
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However, Sylvester McCoy was perfect for the roll... and did good with the screen time he was given. The stick insect was a bit much.
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Brethil
Half-elven
Jan 16 2015, 9:14pm
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I do recall - Sir Patrick is a standout in any Medieval setting
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with his bearing and diction. As for playing a Dwarf - I see that in his Gurney Halleck (another standout role in a wet-cabbage production).
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Evernight
Rivendell
Jan 17 2015, 8:42pm
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Sir Patrick Stewart would've been a great Denethor. I guess it didn't happen because of the X-Men films, where we already got McKellen and Stewart as antagonists.
That's one of the casting decisions I would make if I could travel back in time and be in charge, the other would be Jennifer Connelly as Arwen.
In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit...
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swordwhale
Tol Eressea
Jan 19 2015, 4:34am
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make it sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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"Judge me by my size, would you?" Max the Hobbit Husky.
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swordwhale
Tol Eressea
Jan 19 2015, 4:36am
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mckellen vs stewart news at eleven......
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oh yes, that's too perfect, Patrick Stewart as anybody who could face off with Gandalf............
after all, we've already got Sherlock and Watson...
"Judge me by my size, would you?" Max the Hobbit Husky.
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Celedor
Rivendell
Jan 25 2015, 3:53pm
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Stewart was from my fantasy choice for Denethor back in 1999. (In fact, the next year I wrote McKellen an email and asked if he could recruit him for the part. Little did I know how joined at the hip the two would become!) My other choice was David Warner. Nothing against John Noble, but I never feel the importance, strength, and gravitas from the character in the movies that I feel from the book. But that's probably also due to how he's written.
-Celedor-
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