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orcseye69
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Mar 20 2008, 5:36am
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where do the live and what war are they in that legolas speaks of in return of the king?
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Finding Frodo
Tol Eressea
Mar 20 2008, 2:10pm
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You definitely have a thirst for knowledge of Middle-Earth. I suggest you start by reading The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings (in that order). If you have read them, well, read them again, and don't forget the Appendices of LotR. Any answers we give will just put more questions in your mind, so get out there and find those answers! Oh, all right -- Gimli's people live at Erebor a.k.a. The Lonely Mountain under the leadership of King Dain. They were assaulted, along with King Brand's people of Dale, during the War of the Ring, presumably by local orcs/goblins/wargs (Someone may correct me if I'm wrong). It is fortunate that those two kingdoms had recently been restored since Smaug was killed, or those local orcs/goblins/wargs might have overrun Rivendell. Now don't you wonder who Dain and Brand are and where Erebor and Dale are and how Smaug was killed and what the implications of an attack on Rivendell would have meant for the future of Gondor?
Where's Frodo?
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_V_
Lorien
Mar 20 2008, 2:12pm
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Lord of the Rings is a sequel to "The Hobbit" and was never meant to be read without first reading LOTR I assume you're a movie-only fan If you have a map of middle-earth with you, the Dwarves got scattered all across Middle-earth after many of their cities were destroyed, but in The Hobbit they regained one: mostly the Dwarves live in Erebor, the Lonely Mountain, which is to the northeast of Mirkwood, near the Woodland Realm of the Wood-Elves (Legolas' home) to the north of the Long Lake. To the east are also the Iron Hills, where there are also Dwarves. ****If you've seen only the movies, the point they say in the Writer/Director DVD commentary is that in the BOOKS, they establish that the "War of the Ring" is actually a World War: *Lothlorien is under attack and its borders are on fire *The Woodland Realm is on Fire *The Shire has been occupied and turned into an industrial police-state *an Easterling horde attacked Lonely Mountain and they are now besieged. So for the Extended Edition they were able to insert just one line that "the Dwarves and Elves aren't coming to help us fight here because they're already under attack in their own lands" but the production team laments that they simply did not have the time or budget to film such scenes.....however, they did realize while recording the commentary that as NONE of these scenes would involve current characters, they could potentially just film entirely new scenes for the "25th anniversary DVD edition" and book-fans would actually be really happy to finally see it on film. You see, unlike "Star Wars" which can have sequels, LOTR CANNOT have sequels do to the way it is structured.....but, you CAN just keep padding the films out with more and more scenes cut from the books.
"Pleased to meet you, hope you guessed my name, but what's puzzling you, is the nature of my game" Formerly known on TORN as "Draug the Unspeakably Violent"
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ringbearer9
Lorien
Mar 21 2008, 1:28am
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welcome orcseye69! Great answers above and yes, OE69, do read the hobbit + triology! Plus there are books online and at your Library about the history behind Middle Earth and some cool online sources that can answer your questions (but we are happy to help also). I'm sorta a new LOTR fan so I'm learning too!
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Tolkien Forever
Gondor
Mar 22 2008, 9:59pm
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'V' writes: '*Lothlorien is under attack and its borders are on fire' I would agree that Lorien might have been on fire as the text states that it's woods had great damage done to it's borders, but it is nowhere explicitly stated as it is in the Woodland realm of Legolas' father in Nothern Mirkwood.
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