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According to PJ, "There is a reason for the raised hand of Saruman"
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Girdle of Melian
Lorien

Dec 26 2014, 12:42am

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I don't think Saruman can be subtle enough to control Galadriel while she is battling Sauron (if done in evil way). Galadriel is very perceptive, and even in the earliest days she sensed something was off with Feanor, as well as a disguised Sauron, and even closed her thoughts to Sauron during the War of the Ring.

Whether or not Saruman is helping her, I am not sure, though.


Loresilme
Valinor


Dec 26 2014, 2:06am

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how could Galadriel possibly not know Saruman was interfering with her power in this way?

Galadriel has the ability to mentally communicate, she is familiar with having someone else's thoughts or presence connected to her mind. Saruman could not have messed with her without her sensing it.

The only way I would believe this is if the "recent interview" where "Jackson has stated" this is verified, or there is a complete bombshell of a scene planned for the EE, where Galadriel and Elrond are in Lothlorien and she tells him then that she sensed it.

Interesting idea to ponder though!


(This post was edited by Loresilme on Dec 26 2014, 2:06am)


Hanzkaz
Rohan

Dec 26 2014, 7:56am

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 - How could Galadriel not have noticed? There is also the fact that Elrond was also present. How did Saruman manage to hide his use of 'magical control' from the other two members of the White Council?



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Nerven
Rivendell

Dec 26 2014, 2:15pm

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Maybe she noticed but wasn´t abel to fight back in that moment for she was already struggeling with Sauron Maybe it wasn´t also Sarumans fault when he was already influenced by Sauron in that scene and he made him do that caue the actor said that in this time period Saruman still belonged to the good guys. Galadriel, being the nice person she is, wouldn´t be too harsh to Saruman if she knew he couldn´t defend himself against Saurons efforts, it doesn´t matter anyway, because both (Galadriel and Saruman) won´t interact in the LORT triology.


(This post was edited by Nerven on Dec 26 2014, 2:16pm)


arithmancer
Grey Havens


Dec 27 2014, 5:53pm

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It's implausible... [In reply to] Can't Post

...because none of the (powerful, Wise) characters present noticed anything off. Saruman was still trusted 60 years later.


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