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Bishop
Gondor
Dec 19 2014, 7:39pm
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Is Azog really Bolg's father?
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Or is it possible that in the films they are not related? Is it ever even mentioned?
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deskp
Lorien
Dec 19 2014, 7:45pm
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Bolg is the spawn of azog in the movies.
And no, theres no mom.
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BlackFox
Half-elven
Dec 19 2014, 7:45pm
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... "the spawn of Azog" in BOFA.
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Guert
Rivendell
Dec 19 2014, 7:45pm
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Legolas says to Tauriel in Laketown :
"He is Bolg, the spawn of Azog the Defiler"
Or something along those lines !
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Bishop
Gondor
Dec 19 2014, 7:51pm
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Thanks. I guess that settles that then!
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MechaGodzilla
Rivendell
Dec 19 2014, 8:01pm
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But if orcs "spawn", and there are no mothers...
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How are they supposed to go about that? Do the males "give birth" somehow..? I probably don't want to know. 
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deskp
Lorien
Dec 19 2014, 8:02pm
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Remember the uruk hai.
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Elskidor
Rohan
Dec 19 2014, 8:52pm
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But Bolg's mom was cheating on Azog with a lot of folk I imagine. Perhaps in the EE we will have a cameo of Darth Vadar arriving to explain to Bolg that he is his father. Much could be speculated. Deep questions here!
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Carne
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Dec 19 2014, 9:22pm
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Yes, confirmed on 'The Jerry Springer Show' //
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Cillendor
Lorien
Dec 19 2014, 9:37pm
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And since Orcs are corrupted Elves (particularly in the films), they need mothers to give birth. They can't be an all-male race.
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Otaku-sempai
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Dec 19 2014, 11:15pm
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Bolg is the spawn of azog in the movies.
And no, theres no mom.
There is scant evidence to support the notion that Bolg did not have a mother. Jackson's Uruk-hai seem to be alchemically generated, but then Saruman was in a hurry to raise his army and probably cheated.
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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BlackFox
Half-elven
Dec 19 2014, 11:21pm
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Legolas' mom! She didn't die in Gundabad -- she left Thranduil for Azog. Legolas killed his half brother! 
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
Dec 19 2014, 11:23pm
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You're on your own.
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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Elskidor
Rohan
Dec 19 2014, 11:23pm
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That makes more sense. Good thinking!
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deskp
Lorien
Dec 20 2014, 12:37am
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Pretty sure Philippa has said as much. .No mother.
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mirkwoodwanderer
Lorien
Dec 20 2014, 2:33pm
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The Orc rape Elf captives to make kids
It is not in books, but you know it happened like that
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
Dec 20 2014, 3:54pm
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Pretty sure Philippa has said as much. .No mother.
And I should take Ms. Boyens' word over Tolkien's authority? Maybe in Janson's Middle-earth, but 'pretty sure' is far from an authoritative quotation.
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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deskp
Lorien
Dec 20 2014, 4:22pm
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This is the movie forum so the movie people are the ones that matter.
And yeah im saying 'pretty sure' cause i dont have the actual quotes, but if you dont trust me you can look it up yourself if you care.
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
Dec 20 2014, 4:26pm
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Of course, I meant (Peter) Jackson, not 'Janson'. And, as important as Boyens is to the film series, I would still have it out of Jackson's own mouth.
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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Yes, let's not go there, please!
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